In fact the two are so close that they share exactly the same DSP code. Hardware overlaps about 80%.
73, Wayne N6KR On May 24, 2016, at 5:32 AM, Matt Maguire <[email protected]> wrote: > Architecturally the KX2 much more closely resembles the KX3 than the K2. > > 73, Matt VK2RQ > > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:28 AM -0700, "Nr4c" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As to the ATU in the KX2, 7K/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and I think > the K2 ATU. > > Comparisons with KX1 make sense but how bout a small pocket sized "next step" > to the K2? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 23, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> >> Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be >> pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. >> >> One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the >> optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, >> but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are >> great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to >> suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes >> "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I >> suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says >> "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. >> >> Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat >> the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops >> with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the >> KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. >> >> As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the >> KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", >> perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >>> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has >>> created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, >>> including me. As a KX3 owner >> Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be >> pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. >> >> One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the >> optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, >> but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are >> great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to >> suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes >> "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I >> suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says >> "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. >> >> Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat >> the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops >> with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the >> KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. >> >> As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the >> KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", >> perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >>> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has >>> created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, >>> including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a >>> KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >>> >>> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a >>> "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has >>> stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or >>> not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less >>> capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's >>> not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. >>> Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might >>> gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >>> >>> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although >>> the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! >>> As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops >>> probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio >>> with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >>> >>> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power >>> differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a >>> concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of >>> having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic >>> for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might >>> be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no >>> VHF/UHF as well. >>> >>> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one >>> for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see >>> less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I >>> just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only >>> moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. >>> Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do >>> that. >>> >>> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In >>> their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that >>> capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but >>> I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus >>> if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that >>> smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to >>> just hold the cost down??? >>> >>> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to >>> be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've >>> been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. >>> However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. >>> The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I >>> still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. >>> It's a great reason to own both! >>> >>> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a >>> stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any >>> event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are >>> trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could >>> probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go >>> you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you >>> want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not >>> sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 >>> yet either! Hi. >>> >>> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Dave W7AQK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
