I have heard numbers like 90 and 100 wpm for operative QRQ for the K3, but
don't have time to go research where I heard that. I *know* it runs sweet
at 60 and 70 WPM. BTDT.

But I will caution that certain problems with key contact surfaces will
produce a signal impossible to debounce. These problems were *very* common
with older bugs and straight keys.

Having a single debouncing strategy for 90 wpm QRQ, and for degraded
contact surfaces extremely common with bugs and old straight keys is
probably an oxymoron.

There is a reason that Vibroplex offers a resurfacing service for contacts
on their products. Pitting and carbonizing from keying 250 volts at 150
milliamps, scratching, wearing, sandpapering (yes people did that),
flattening, filing (yes people did that), yada, yada, yada. These were all
huge issues in the day before common affordable electronic keyers,
standalone and built-in, and polished single chip solutions like Win-Key.

If I was a modern manufacturer and had a choice between servicing 90 wpm
QRQ and debouncing bugs and straight keys with questionable contact
surfaces, I would choose QRQ hands down. Not close. Easy smackdown choice
for QRQ.

Those of us who want to use the old stuff need to make allowances. Getting
rid of key clicks in my Johnson Viking Ranger I is a problem I have never
really conquered. And I can't bring myself to spend the bux to get the
contacts on my Vibroplex bug resurfaced. That's *my* issue, not Elecraft's.

Programming resources and subsequent testing for transceiver firmware is
one of the most expensive components of any modern transceiver.
Manufacturers have to make choices that will return a profit or they will
go out of business.

73, Guy K2AV

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, lstavenhagen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I imagine it's because of the QRQ support that it doesn't have dedicated
> debouncing circuitry for straight keys, but I'm not sure about that. The K2
> does have some small caps across the key input, but it too still gives me
> slight problems when I key it with my straight key. Though it's not as bad
> as with the K3(s)..
>
> I'm just going to use an external keyer on mine, since I have other uses
> for
> a dedicated keyer in general. Most Curtis based keyers have debouncing
> built-in for use with straight keys and bugs.
>
> 73
> LS
> W5QD
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