Right. Duh!!! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill
> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Bill, > > I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post. > How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's > 'invention'. > Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms > and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing > Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility > programs and help in downloading firmware. Yes, it happens. > > With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" > and not conversant with computer lingo. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person <d...@k0dxv.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm a big Pi fan myself. So if adding my voice provides any additional >>> influence - here it is. I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra >>> work involved. If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join >>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make >>> a contribution. >>> >>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable >>> with each new board. Version 3 is quite amazing. I can hardly tell I'm >>> running on a little ARM box. It's power is the result of the advances in >>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright. >>> >>> Doug -- K0DXV >>> >>>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never >>>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as >>>> I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi >>>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. >>>> Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, >>>> although sloooooow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for >>>> the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to >>>> my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well… >>>> >>>> Thanks for everyone’s input. >>>> >>>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB >>>> Folsom, CA >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell >>>>> <kg1...@gmail.com> wroteBill, > > I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post. > How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's > 'invention'. > Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms > and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing > Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility > programs and help in downloading firmware. Yes, it happens. > > With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" > and not conversant with computer lingo. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person <d...@k0dxv.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm a big Pi fan myself. So if adding my voice provides any additional >>> influence - here it is. I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra >>> work involved. If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join >>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make >>> a contribution. >>> >>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable >>> with each new board. Version 3 is quite amazing. I can hardly tell I'm >>> running on a little ARM box. It's power is the result of the advances in >>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright. >>> >>> Doug -- K0DXV >>> >>>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never >>>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as >>>> I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi >>>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. >>>> Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, >>>> although sloooooow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for >>>> the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to >>>> my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well… >>>> >>>> Thanks for everyone’s input. >>>> >>>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB >>>> Folsom, CA >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell >>>>> <kg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to >>>>> run it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do >>>>> that is for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to >>>>> recall being mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time >>>>> setting up the tool chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would >>>>> be time best spent fixing other problems. >>>>> >>>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do >>>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required >>>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee >>>>> capital. >>>>> >>>>> Here's hoping for the future, though. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> KG1GEM >>>>> >>>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not >>>>> the list originally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself. So if adding my voice >>>>> provides any additional >>> influence - here it is. I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra >>> work involved. If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join >>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make >>> a contribution. >>> >>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable >>> with each new board. Version 3 is quite amazing. I can hardly tell I'm >>> running on a little ARM box. It's power is the result of the advances in >>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright. >>> >>> Doug -- K0DXV >>> >>>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never >>>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as >>>> I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi >>>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. >>>> Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, >>>> although sloooooow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for >>>> the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to >>>> my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well… >>>> >>>> Thanks for everyone’s input. >>>> >>>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB >>>> Folsom, CA >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell >>>>> <kg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to >>>>> run it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do >>>>> that is for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to >>>>> recall being mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time >>>>> setting up the tool chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would >>>>> be time best spent fixing other problems. >>>>> >>>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do >>>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required >>>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee >>>>> capital. >>>>> >>>>> Here's hoping for the future, though. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> KG1GEM >>>>> >>>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not >>>>> the list originally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>>>>> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some >>>>>> time, using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X >>>>>> rc3 for JT9 and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into >>>>>> the KX3 so I can get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d >>>>>> the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on >>>>>> the “kx3util” executable, nothing happens. What is the secret procedure >>>>>> to get this going? 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