If it were only a chip change to add a winkeyer 3 inside my K3 I would do it in a heart beat.
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Using the Winkey is not a requirement. It's just a much better keyer than the > Elecraft keyer. > One chip and some extraneous parts...problem gone. > > >> On 2/14/2017 9:53 AM, Chester Alderman wrote: >> First, I admit to not understanding the problem! I do run QSK and VOX during >> contest and during regular QRQ QSO's. With my K3/Alpha 9500 setup, I can run >> full QSK CW up to 100 wpm and I have no PTT delay issues? I do not run with >> PTT asserted and therefore I do not witness the issues other contesters >> have.. As for N1MM's "poorly designed internal K3 keyer logic", I certainly >> have to disagree with that comment. During 'normal' contest I operate from >> 28 to 40 wpm, full QSK and would go nuts if there were any perturbations >> with my K3's keying. >> >> A so called 'solution' to CW stuttering is to purchase and use the K1EL >> keyer. The real problem is with Windows op system wherein the CPU is often >> interrupted to do 'internal chores'; and when this happens, all I/O ports >> are shut down, which causes the CW stutter. Simply turning off the Windows >> generated sound, eliminates the stutter issue and the 'requirement' to >> purchase the K1EL keyer. >> >> 73, >> Tom - W4BQF >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:53 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Feature Request: improved internal keyer and CW PTT >> behavior >> >> Okay, lets take Eric's lead and open an interesting thread directly related >> to an excellent Elecraft product. >> >> >> >> For years many of us have suffered with the odd behavior of the K3 >> in CW PTT mode. There are at least two inexplicble aspects of K3 >> CW PTT behavior that have forced many of us to use external >> Winkeyers rather than the poorly designed internal K3 keyer logic >> when the K3 is in CW PTT mode. >> >> >> For CW contesters, its necessary to operate the K3 in PTT mode >> to avoid unwanted VOX delay. But for some strange reason the >> K3 always applies VOX delay after external PTT is unasserted. >> I can think of no logical reason why VOX delay should be applied >> at the end of the external PTT input when the K3 is PTT mode or >> any other mode. When PTT is unasserted, the K3 should always >> immediately return to receive mode, no exceptions. >> >> >> When using the internal K3 keyer when in PTT mode, for some >> inexplicable reason the K3 behaves like its in QSK mode. The >> only way to avoid this is to use VOX rather than PTT mode or >> to use a foot switch when in PTT mode. Both alternatives >> are unacceptable. >> >> >> The band aid solution many contesters use with excellent results >> is to avoid using the internal K3 keyer and to use an external >> K1EL Winkeyer that generates both a key output and a PTT >> signal generated according to well designed Winkeyer CW PTT >> logic. >> >> >> Why can't the K3 implement logic similar to the Winkeyer to >> generate the equivalent of "Winkeyer PTT" when using the K3 >> internal keyer when the K3 is in PTT mode? >> >> >> 73 >> Frank >> W3LPL >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]

