Thanks, Jim.  I will get into your tutorials as I continue to absorb and learn 
from this discussion.

A number of people responded, both on the reflector and directly, with 
observations similar to yours in at least one important respect – namely, the 
quality of the ground really matters to the performance of a vertical.  That 
factor alone may stop the vertical inquiry in its tracks.  My operating QTH is 
at 8,600 feet ASL, atop a small mountain ridge dominated by decomposed granite 
– about the least conductive soil there is.  The altitude matters because the 
relative humidity there is very low, the ground vegetation is sparse and so the 
organic soil is too, and there is no surface water at that elevation save for 
the snow which as often sublimates away as melts.  In other words, very dry 
gravel in at least the near field and for much of the land surrounding.   Ah, 
what I would give to have an ocean nearby again.

Given those conditions, the suggestions seem to be two:  Forget it and put the 
Vee back up; or do the vertical with a capacity hat and elevated radials.  The 
latter is possible, as the property has enough space and pine and fir trees 
despite the harsh growing conditions.   Elevated radials would have to be at 
least 10 feet high to avoid strangling the deer, not to mention neighbors 
passing through on their horses. That presents the question of how to get the 
vertical component of the vertical as long as possible if its base is already 
ten feet up.   For reasons of domestic tranquility the house itself cannot be 
an antenna mount.  When I have that construction question solved the 
discussions about top loading and polarization will be important.

I want also to say thanks to the dozen or so people who offered their knowledge 
and counsel.  This group is, as always, an extraordinary resource of 
resourceful friends.

KN1CBR

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