John and all,

This is a problem caused by the "way things work".
The original K3 did not have pullup resistors on the band data lines (correct by engineering practices, the pullup resistors should be in the receiving device). BUT as a concession to those band decoders did not implement pullup resistors in their decoders, Elecraft got a lot of "flack" because the K3 did not work with those decoders.

As a result Elecraft added pullup resistors in the K3. However those pullup resistors only work with devices which will respond to the +5 volt high level.

There are some band decoders that DO provide pullup resistors, and some of them tie the pullup resistors to +12 volts. Those band decoders will not work with the K3/K3S unless the pullup resistors in the band decoders are removed AND that the band decoder will respond to a +5 volt level for the logic high. The result is that the K3 and band decoder "fight" for the logic high level.

IMHO, the original K3 design "did it right", and the problem lies with the band decoders. The K3 addition of the internal pullup resistors caused problems with all except those band decoders that did not have internal pullup resistors.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2018 9:08 PM, John Nogatch wrote:
I had difficulty with the Unified Microsystems BCD-14, i.e. the CMOS
inverter IC was overheating.

I eventually received the following advice from AB3CV, which I found to work.

-John AC6SL


From: Jim Miller <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Band Data
To: John Nogatch <[email protected]>


My BCD14 purchased this summer was unreliable as well. If you look at
the K3 (or K3s...the same) the Band Data outputs are open collector
pulled up by 2.2K in series with 200ohms. I knew this could be a
problem with anything which wasn't properly buffered so I looked at
the BCD14 schematic. I found the BCD-14 online schematic differed from
the unit I had after inspection with a ohm meter and magnifying glass.

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