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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Irma & Linas(LY2H) <>

> I have both the FT- 817nd ( since ten years)  and the KX-2 ( since about
> two years).
>  The '817 used to be an unbeatable champion in the QRP rigs class for many
> years due to its versatility, all-band (160m -70cm) all mode features. It
> travelled with me all accross Europe and did a great job in casual
> hotel-style operation but also in a big contests' QRP category with very
> good results. With a third-party DSP filter (Bhi-Dsp module) installed this
> rig was and still is a very welcome in my shack,  last but not least due to
> its VHF/UHF full-feature coverage including  sattelite operation .On the
> downside , the FT'817 needs quite a lot of energy to produce its 5W and
> that makes the operation from its internal battery practically useless. The
> lack of a built in ATU is another minus, eventhough the Elecraft's T-1 mini
> tuner comes as a great solution for this  :)). Tiny display is yet another
> minus.
> As it comes to KX-2 it is my favourite and major  rig now for all of my HF
> QRP activities, incl working mobile. The first thing wich struck me,
> compare to the FT817, was a KX-2 internal battery which REALY worked for
> many hours uncharged! Even if in a hotel room or in the car I prefere to
> run it on the battery since it much more convienient, less wiring and QRM
> from the switching power supply ( only few brands of ps are almost no
> noise). The power consumption both on RX and especially TX in the KX2 was
> another pleasant surprise! What it takes for the FT-817 to produce 5 W is
> enough or even less for KX-2 to yeald up good 10W! This comes as a great
> advantage when taking part in the QRP contests, since a 10W amplifier
> stands easily the heavy-duty style contest operation when run at the 5 W
> level. For a casual operation when the 5W QRP is not a requirement I like
> it very much to have 10-12 W in such a compact box. I also like the large
> display and great functionality in KX-2 , like built in messages for CW and
> even SSB. The message feature makes it much more fun when operating mobile
> or in the contest ( especially voice messaging , since I hate shouting cq
> for hours :)). The DSP filtering  makes the receiver's general performing
> far better to my opinion  then the FT-817 especially in a crowdy
> environment like FD or a contest. Being a programmable SDR rig, the KX-2 is
> easily upgradable ( and I like it very much!) for more and better features
> which is out of question for an old ( good!) analogue FT-817. The only
> thing which the KX-2 lacks on HF is a 160 m band ( and I don't understand
> why). As it comes for the VHF/UHF I don't miss it in the KX-2 since it
> would be rearly used by the HF hams anyway and it would result in the
> bigger size and the price of the rig. There is a KX-3 for that, :) and I
> personally still have the FT-817 packed carefully in case I feel a desire
> to grab my VHF yagies and rush to a VHF field day, :)).
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