Wrong.

FT8 is indeed a sub-noise floor mode like JT65.  Don know where you got the idea it isn't, but FT8 is actually an offshoot of JT65 except it sacrifices a few db for the sake of faster exchanges.  The official FT8 documentation from K1JT, the creator of both, says that it is nominally capable of -20 db decoding.  >Referenced to the noise floor<

And of course CW is faster ... just 20 db or so less effective for weak signal reception.

Dave   AB7E

sent from my home computer where I can look up stuff first so I don't post erroneous claims



On 6/1/2018 2:03 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
FT8 is *not* a "sub-noise floor" mode like JT65. You can complete faster on CW. 
It's great that there's so much activity, but far too many crap overdriven signals 
calling relentlessly.

73
Josh W6XU

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