Not quite right, for at least two reasons. First, in my post I described the
matter not as a legal qissue -- that is to say, not what it is technically
legal to do -- but as a jurisprudential question -- that is, given the broader
and deeper traditions of American law, what should the operative legal
principles be. Second, even on the question of waivers and consents and the
like, take a look sometime at what became known as the shrinkwrap problem.
Briefly, even before operating system manufacturers created even less
accessible license and waiver texts, manufacturers of consumer electronics and
other goods included their warranty limitation language inside the box, wrapped
in plastic, which the buyer could not in any practical way read before making
the purchase. Manufacturers nonetheless attempted to enforce their warranty
limitation terms when defect problems arose. Some court decisions -- the
better ones, in my view -- said no way; that's flat-out contrary to more fu
ndamental principles of American contract law.
As a practical matter, Windows 10 is sold to millions of people in an
effectively equivalent way. As one example I bought a MS Surface laptop at an
MS kiosk in a mall. When I bought it it had been fully loaded by MS's
representatives and handed to me, ready for me to key in my passwords. I never
saw nor had a chance to see anything disclaiming or waiving or defining
anything before they charged my account. I therefore in fact agreed to
nothing. Period. To say that I impliedly agreed because I should have known
there was some pro-vendor verbiage somewhere inside is not a valid legal
argument: it's the sort of argument that could legalize anything that was
common usage no matter how nefarious. So I stand by my point that from a
jurisprudential point of view, who should have what rights to change something
in my computer without legally adequate notice to me and an opportunity to
decline is a serious question worthy of some deeper analysis.
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:10:38 -0400
From: w3ab <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 USB Drivers
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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. . .
Your own the hardware, you license the software/firmware from the owner.
The owner can make any changes they want without your input. But you can
turn off updates.
When you first load a program you have to agree to terms and conditions
before you can proceed. You should read those, quite enlightening.
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