FT8 is a weak signal mode.  That does not always equate to low power.  I have 
seen many instances on 6M where 400 watts resulted in a -15 signal report from 
the far end.

Many of the K1JT modes started with moon bounce where it often took 1500 watts 
to get a weak signal back.

Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI







> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:15 AM, turnbull <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I thought FT8 was a low power mode.   Am I wrong?   I am not referring to Fox 
> Hound mode.
> 
> 73 DOUG EI2CN
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael Blake via Elecraft <[email protected]>
> Date: 17/07/2018 14:12 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Nr4c <[email protected]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>, ANDY DURBIN 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 thermal clicks
> 
> While possibly my imagination, after a few months of use I loosened all of 
> the Z bracket to heatsink screws and side panel to heatsink screws and then 
> retightened all of them plus the top cover to Z bracket screws.  That seemed 
> to reduce the clicking.
> 
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Nr4c <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > “Clicks” caused by the “Z” bracket are well documented and normal. 
> > Personally, I don’t find this “intolerable” or even slightly annoying. My 
> > wall clock “ticks” every second.  
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 7:56 AM, ANDY DURBIN <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The clicking of my KPA500 is almost intolerable and I'd like to know if 
> >> what I'm experiencing is typical.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In an FT8 TX/RX cycle  with output power 126 W my KPA500 clicks 7-8 times 
> >> during 15 second transmit and 7-8 times during 15 second receive.  In 
> >> these TX/RX cycles my logger shows the finals temperature swings between 
> >> 57 deg C and 63 deg C.   During  this test the KPA500 was seeing an SWR of 
> >> 1.02:1  and calculated PA dissipation was 307 W.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I don't think this temperature swing is likely to cause the heat sink to 
> >> expand and contract significantly.  The thermal mass of the heat sink is 
> >> quite large and the heating and cooling periods are short.    The first 
> >> click happens almost as soon as the KPA500 is keyed.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I think it is possible that the clicks are caused by expansion and 
> >> contraction  of the finals at their mounting points.   Is that likely and, 
> >> if so, why would it be considered normal?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 73,
> >> 
> >> Andy k3wyc
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