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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS (Gwen Patton) > 11. K3 problem after latest sw update ([email protected]) > 12. Re: My KX2 may be sick (Dave New, N8SBE) > 13. Re: Shipping high value items by UPS > (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) > 14. K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues (Don Schroder) > 15. Re: K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues (Don Wilhelm) > 16. Re: My KX2 may be sick (Paul Smith) > 17. Re: K3 problem after latest sw update (Nr4c) > 18. Re: K3 problem after latest sw update ([email protected]) > 19. K-Pod CTS to match VFO (Art) > 20. Re: K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues (Don Wilhelm) > 21. Re: K-Pod CTS to match VFO (Don Wilhelm) > 22. Re: K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues (Don Schroder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:48:14 -0400 > From: JOE <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400 >> From: Grant Youngman<[email protected]> >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[email protected]> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >> >> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and >> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping. > > I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 > insurance.? I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service > at the normal rates.? They said they use a company that contracts with > UPS for shipping.? The company that provides the UPS service to the > hardware store requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly > due to some fraud cases in the past.? Because they know me well they > took my word that I double boxed it and packed it well, I didn't have to > unpack it.? I had shipped many things with them in the past with no > problems. > > For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO > box.? It's a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO > box holders from any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.? They will also > sign for some packages requiring signature if you have a signature on > file.? This solves my problem of packages left on my doorstep for people > to potentially steal.? This also solves the problem of people/businesses > that will not ship to a PO box. > > This is how I address packages to be mailed to me. > > My Name > 34 Main Street? #(my PO box number) > East Haddam, CT 06423 > > A really nice feature of the post office.? Look at: > > <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm> > > 73, Joe, K1ike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:13:27 -0400 > From: Rus Healy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 internal 2-meter transverter problem > Message-ID: > <CAGK9h=mdtczxdmece4ec7sc+86ubavcdoyxre5jvxf92b1h...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have an older K3 (low-2000 serial number) with the K144XV internal > 2-meter transverter and KXV3A module (factory-upgraded in 2014). > > In the September VHF contest, the first time I've used that band on that > radio, I found that the transmitter is flying. It puts out 2-3 watts when > keyed, regardless of mode (CW, SSB), with no keying/modulation. It drives > up to a few watts output and sounds okay on-frequency, TX and RX, but is > clearly not stable and the bad energy is in-band on 2 meters, and quite > nearby. > > I haven't looked at the output on the spectrum analyzer yet, or taken the > radio apart to inspect the transverter; I wanted to ask here for any > similar experiences before I tear into it to hopefully save a bit of time. > > Thanks in advance. > > --73, Rus, K2UA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:21:45 +0700 > From: Martin Sole <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Mine does this. The white screen has gone though by the time my finger > comes off the K3 power button, replaced with a P3 boot loader message, > that's also gone very quickly. > > Martin, HS0ZED > > >> On 26/09/2018 07:15, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: >> Just purchased a NIB P3 for my K3S station.?? Love it! >> >> Question - is it normal for it to initially power on with a bright >> white screen while it loads?? This is very brief, but sure makes a >> flash. ? If normal, then so be it.? It is powered from the DC jack on >> the K3S.?? I always switch the station supply on first and then the >> radio.? Thus the KAT500 and P3 are powered from the same switched source. >> >> I did update it to the latest firmware as it came to me with older >> version. >> >> 73 >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 22:27:02 -0500 > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[email protected]> > To: Martin Sole <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks Martin. > > Just wondering if it is normal. From the reports, it is. > > Thanks to all. > > Bob, K4TAX > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 25, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Martin Sole <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mine does this. The white screen has gone though by the time my finger comes >> off the K3 power button, replaced with a P3 boot loader message, that's also >> gone very quickly. >> >> Martin, HS0ZED >> >> >>> On 26/09/2018 07:15, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: >>> Just purchased a NIB P3 for my K3S station. Love it! >>> >>> Question - is it normal for it to initially power on with a bright white >>> screen while it loads? This is very brief, but sure makes a flash. If >>> normal, then so be it. It is powered from the DC jack on the K3S. I >>> always switch the station supply on first and then the radio. Thus the >>> KAT500 and P3 are powered from the same switched source. >>> >>> I did update it to the latest firmware as it came to me with older version. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Bob, K4TAX >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 03:28:44 +0000 > From: Bill Johnson <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: > > <sn6pr05mb4288164b7dd1562241306baf9c...@sn6pr05mb4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Joe, that is very good info for us with PO Boxes and want greater security. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > https://wrj-tech.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of JOE > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > >> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400 >> From: Grant Youngman<[email protected]> >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[email protected]> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >> >> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and >> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping. > > I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 > insurance.? I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service at > the normal rates.? They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for > shipping.? The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware store > requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud > cases in the past.? Because they know me well they took my word that I double > boxed it and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.? I had shipped many > things with them in the past with no problems. > > For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO box.? > It's a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box > holders from any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.? They will also sign for > some packages requiring signature if you have a signature on file.? This > solves my problem of packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially > steal.? This also solves the problem of people/businesses that will not ship > to a PO box. > > This is how I address packages to be mailed to me. > > My Name > 34 Main Street? #(my PO box number) > East Haddam, CT 06423 > > A really nice feature of the post office.? Look at: > > <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm> > > 73, Joe, K1ike > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:27:22 -0500 > From: K9MA <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I learned an expensive lesson when I shipped my K3 back for service: > Never ship from a UPS "Store", unless you prepay online. The store > charged me about double the online price, with some excuse about using a > different insurance company. You can, however, prepay online and just > drop it off at a nearby store. > > 73, > Scott K9MA > > > -- > Scott K9MA > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 04:41:48 -0700 (MST) > From: Barry <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > One semi-related warning: > Avoid DHL. > > I ordered a piece of furniture from Italy, which included a glass-top table. > It arrived in a wooden crate, which looked perfect from the outside, but the > glass was totally shattered inside. They mist have dropped it on its edge > from a good height, or dropped something heavy on top of it. > > Currently going through the insurance claim process, and the number of > repetitive phone calls and emails has been mind-boggling. A very poorly > managed company. > > Barry W2UP > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:33:39 -0400 > From: Dan Mouer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: > <cadvtkh4enh-3eoynix1-tqwzo1owfakvznnbj14ja-8dv2j...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just my opinion, but I can't get USPS to reliably deliver my mail on a > regular basis. No way am I trusting them with a high value package. > I hate and dread it when I order something and it starts out UPS or FedEx > and ends up "smart posting" through USPS the last mile. > > The few times I've tried to file a complaint (via phone or face to face) > all I got was a run around and a carrier lying to my face. > > YMMV. > > Dan - N3XJN > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:19 PM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes >> that I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll >> be using the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a >> premium shipping method with full insurance. I ship merchandise >> commercially and I've found their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 >> instances in 27 years that I needed to do so than the first (and only) time >> I ever tried to do this with UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to >> pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let >> alone a $6,000 amp. >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Regards, >> Peter Dougherty, W2IRT >> DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint >> >> www.facebook.com/W2IRT >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:53 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >> >> I don?t know what the other guys do. But this has apparently been a UPS >> policy since February for packages delivered to the Service Center. >> Didn?t know about it of course, and don?t think there was any kind of >> warning on the website. Maybe just missed the announcement. I seem to >> recall the last time I shipped something insured for near maximum value, >> that the UPS Store could take it and sign for it, but that doesn?t seem to >> be the case any longer. >> >> I?m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with >> high-value insurance by UPS, and have to take it to a Service Center, >> expect them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item >> so they can inspect it and make sure it isn?t ticking :-) >> >> Grant NQ5T >> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 >> >>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl J?n Denbow <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I?ve shipped many high value >> items with them. I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at >> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about >> $4000.00. They had to insure the packing was sufficient. I?ve avoided >> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > -- > Dan > *N3XJN* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:14:17 -0400 > From: Bob <[email protected]> > To: JOE <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp. I've had great > service > from them. My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail. > > I use the addressing scheme below too. > > I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery. Every > morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day. From it I can make > a > decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day. Here: > > https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action > > Not a well known PO service. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR > > >> On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote: >>> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400 >>> From: Grant Youngman<[email protected]> >>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[email protected]> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >>> >>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and >>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping. >> >> I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 >> insurance.? I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service at >> the >> normal rates.? They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for >> shipping.? The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware store >> requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud >> cases >> in the past.? Because they know me well they took my word that I double >> boxed it >> and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.? I had shipped many things >> with >> them in the past with no problems. >> >> For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO box.? >> It's >> a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box holders >> from >> any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.? They will also sign for some packages >> requiring signature if you have a signature on file.? This solves my problem >> of >> packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.? This also >> solves >> the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box. >> >> This is how I address packages to be mailed to me. >> >> My Name >> 34 Main Street? #(my PO box number) >> East Haddam, CT 06423 >> >> A really nice feature of the post office.? Look at: >> >> <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm> >> >> 73, Joe, K1ike > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:26:14 -0400 > From: Gwen Patton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: > <ca+nqa2p0macg-sw0r+q5p91bjw5nh2ncmafpakg3vj3+kwo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > My KXPA100 order hit on a day when it was raining fairly heavily. The UPS > driver clearly thought we wouldn't be home for some reason -- perhaps too > cynical? I don't know -- so he didn't bother to carry it the 14 lb box to > the house. Maybe he didn't want to have to carry it back to the van in the > rain? An interesting speculation, except for one small detail. > > I was home. So was my partner. We were sitting 6 feet from the door, and if > the driver had even set foot on the porch, we would have noticed him > because we were sitting by a window onto the porch. Instead, he brought a > small Amazon package to the porch, to which he affixed the "sorry, we > missed you" tag, and tossed them onto the porch and ran back to his van. In > earlier times, they simply would have brought the package back the next > day, but not these days. He took the package to a pickup spot, a UPS store > about 5 miles from my house, and I had to pick it up the next day, in > person, with my ID so I could sign for it. > > The sheer laziness of this event stunned me. He just didn't seem to want to > carry the box to the door in the rain, and was willing to inconvenience the > recipient of an expensive package just to avoid a couple minutes' work. I > don't have this trouble with FedEx, though I sometimes have problems with > Amazon drivers who claim not only that they delivered my package, but put > it directly into my hands, when I didn't even receive it until 2 days > later. They simply lie to avoid doing their jobs. It's the only thing I can > think of to explain it. > > It doesn't do any good to complain. I raised the roof at UPS, and it had > zero effect. The woman on the phone told me she'd have the package brought > back to my door. Instead, it went to the pickup spot and I had to get my > disabled butt to their store to pick it up. Very frustrating! > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:14 PM Bob <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp. I've had great >> service >> from them. My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail. >> >> I use the addressing scheme below too. >> >> I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery. >> Every >> morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day. From it I can >> make a >> decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day. Here: >> >> https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action >> >> Not a well known PO service. >> >> 73, >> Bob >> K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR >> >> >>> On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote: >>>> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400 >>>> From: Grant Youngman<[email protected]> >>>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >>>> >>>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead >> and >>>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about >> shipping. >>> >>> I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 >>> insurance. I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service >> at the >>> normal rates. They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for >>> shipping. The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware >> store >>> requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud >> cases >>> in the past. Because they know me well they took my word that I double >> boxed it >>> and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it. I had shipped many >> things with >>> them in the past with no problems. >>> >>> For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO >> box. It's >>> a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box >> holders from >>> any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc. They will also sign for some >> packages >>> requiring signature if you have a signature on file. This solves my >> problem of >>> packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal. This also >> solves >>> the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box. >>> >>> This is how I address packages to be mailed to me. >>> >>> My Name >>> 34 Main Street #(my PO box number) >>> East Haddam, CT 06423 >>> >>> A really nice feature of the post office. Look at: >>> >>> <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm> >>> >>> 73, Joe, K1ike >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > -- > > -+-+-+-+- > Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time > http://quarktime.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:30:07 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: elecraft digest <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem after latest sw update > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi! > > Yesterday I updated my K3's sw. After some shutdown and startups it came > up as normal. > > But there is no reception. I get noise from my antenna. Unplug the > antenna, no noise. > Send a signal in the air on the tuned frequency ... nothing. No S-meter, > no biep. > > What went wrong? I did reinstall all updates. No result. > > Twan - PA0KV > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:43:29 -0700 > From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[email protected]> > To: "Paul Smith" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick > Message-ID: > > <20180926134329.1fa1e31b6b6b329ecc65be958babcc1f.18b7416c89....@email09.godaddy.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 14:49:29 -0700 > From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[email protected]> > To: Gwen Patton <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Folks, this OT thread was closed yesterday. > Eric > Moderator > /elecraft.com/ > >> On 9/26/2018 12:26 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: >> My KXPA100 order hit on a day when it was raining fairly heavily. The UPS >> driver clearly thought we wouldn't be home for some reason -- perhaps too >> cynical? I don't know -- so he didn't bother to carry it the 14 lb box to >> the house. Maybe he didn't want to have to carry it back to the van in the >> rain? An interesting speculation, except for one small detail. >> >> I was home. So was my partner. We were sitting 6 feet from the door, and if >> the driver had even set foot on the porch, we would have noticed him >> because we were sitting by a window onto the porch. Instead, he brought a >> small Amazon package to the porch, to which he affixed the "sorry, we >> missed you" tag, and tossed them onto the porch and ran back to his van. In >> earlier times, they simply would have brought the package back the next >> day, but not these days. He took the package to a pickup spot, a UPS store >> about 5 miles from my house, and I had to pick it up the next day, in >> person, with my ID so I could sign for it. >> >> The sheer laziness of this event stunned me. He just didn't seem to want to >> carry the box to the door in the rain, and was willing to inconvenience the >> recipient of an expensive package just to avoid a couple minutes' work. I >> don't have this trouble with FedEx, though I sometimes have problems with >> Amazon drivers who claim not only that they delivered my package, but put >> it directly into my hands, when I didn't even receive it until 2 days >> later. They simply lie to avoid doing their jobs. It's the only thing I can >> think of to explain it. >> >> It doesn't do any good to complain. I raised the roof at UPS, and it had >> zero effect. The woman on the phone told me she'd have the package brought >> back to my door. Instead, it went to the pickup spot and I had to get my >> disabled butt to their store to pick it up. Very frustrating! >> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:14 PM Bob <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp. I've had great >>> service >>> from them. My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail. >>> >>> I use the addressing scheme below too. >>> >>> I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery. >>> Every >>> morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day. From it I can >>> make a >>> decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day. Here: >>> >>> https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action >>> >>> Not a well known PO service. >>> >>> 73, >>> Bob >>> K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR >>> >>> >>>> On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote: >>>>> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> Message: 6 >>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400 >>>>> From: Grant Youngman<[email protected]> >>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS >>>>> >>>>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead >>> and >>>>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about >>> shipping. >>>> I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 >>>> insurance. I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service >>> at the >>>> normal rates. They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for >>>> shipping. The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware >>> store >>>> requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud >>> cases >>>> in the past. Because they know me well they took my word that I double >>> boxed it >>>> and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it. I had shipped many >>> things with >>>> them in the past with no problems. >>>> >>>> For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO >>> box. It's >>>> a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box >>> holders from >>>> any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc. They will also sign for some >>> packages >>>> requiring signature if you have a signature on file. This solves my >>> problem of >>>> packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal. This also >>> solves >>>> the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box. >>>> >>>> This is how I address packages to be mailed to me. >>>> >>>> My Name >>>> 34 Main Street #(my PO box number) >>>> East Haddam, CT 06423 >>>> >>>> A really nice feature of the post office. Look at: >>>> >>>> <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm> >>>> >>>> 73, Joe, K1ike >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:14:06 +0000 > From: Don Schroder <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues > Message-ID: > > <mw2pr02mb3849174179d64c277c662e15aa...@mw2pr02mb3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi folks, > > Got to the subject location on my K2 kit #7818, and am having some > difficulties with the tests. My frequency counter, when touched to the left > side of trimmer capacitor C22, reads 3999.98 on the LCD. This makes me > believe there is no problem with the frequency counter probe that I assembled. > > On page 63, under *4 MHz Oscillator Calibration, I selected CAL FCTR, and > the LCD displays a rapidly changing frequency between 185.~ to 188.~. It does > not show a frequency of 12090 kHz suggested by the manual. This tells me I > have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator (since the frequency counter > probe appeared to be ok). I then decided to check voltages, and discovered > that I am missing some +5v signals from U4 and U5. > > Any suggestions on where to look next? I?d like to trace the 5v signals, but > I don?t see how to do that using the schematics. I did measure voltages on > the 8 pins of the Thermistor Board, they were all 0 volts! That didn?t seem > right, either. > > Appreciate any suggestions! Thanks! > Don, KE0PVQ > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 20:44:44 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: Don Schroder <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Don, > > First check the DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 - it should be 4 volts > (or 1/2 the 8 volt regulator output voltage). If it is not correct, you > have a problem with the thermistor board - most likely a solder bridge. > > You should have 8 volts at the thermistor board pin 8. If that is not > correct, look carefully for solder bridges. That 8 volts comes directly > from the 8 volt regulator voltage rail. > > It does sound like you have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator, > but your voltage measurements on the thermistor board pins should be > investigated first before drawing any other conclusions. > > Make sure you have good results with the PLL range tests just after that. > > The exact frequency of the 4 MHz Oscillator is not critical at this > point - for now it only substantiates that the oscillator is working. > If you put a probe on C22, it will pull the frequency. If your > frequency counter is sufficiently accurate, wait until you have a good > frequency at TP1, and then measure the frequency with both the counter > and the internal counter probe using CAL FCTR. Adjust C22 so CAL FCTR > frequency is the same as your external counter. > > I do not know the accuracy of your counter, but mine is accurate to 10 > exp-9 and I can set C22 with it for good K2 Dial Calibration. There are > other methods for setting C22 that do not depend on the accuracy of your > frequency counter. When you can receive WWV at 10 or better 15 MHz, > look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration to > accurately set C22 and achieve good K2 dial calibration. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/26/2018 8:14 PM, Don Schroder wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Got to the subject location on my K2 kit #7818, and am having some >> difficulties with the tests. My frequency counter, when touched to the left >> side of trimmer capacitor C22, reads 3999.98 on the LCD. This makes me >> believe there is no problem with the frequency counter probe that I >> assembled. >> >> On page 63, under *4 MHz Oscillator Calibration, I selected CAL FCTR, and >> the LCD displays a rapidly changing frequency between 185.~ to 188.~. It >> does not show a frequency of 12090 kHz suggested by the manual. This tells >> me I have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator (since the frequency >> counter probe appeared to be ok). I then decided to check voltages, and >> discovered that I am missing some +5v signals from U4 and U5. >> >> Any suggestions on where to look next? I?d like to trace the 5v signals, but >> I don?t see how to do that using the schematics. I did measure voltages on >> the 8 pins of the Thermistor Board, they were all 0 volts! That didn?t seem >> right, either. >> >> Appreciate any suggestions! Thanks! >> Don, KE0PVQ >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 01:30:59 +0000 > From: Paul Smith <[email protected]> > To: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick > Message-ID: > > <dm5pr19mb1452a52e68537566532259d2ea...@dm5pr19mb1452.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks Dave, I have the KXPD2 paddle but do not use it much as I am a > straight key guy or bug. > > Thanks > > de Paul N0NBD > > > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave New, N8SBE <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 8:43 PM > To: Paul Smith; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick > > Paul, > > Check your KXPD3 keyer paddle. It turns out that early versions had screw > heads that were a bit too long that stuck out the back side of the paddle > housing, causing a short to the chassis, if the heads bit through the black > paint. > > I have one of these, and it worked fine until the screw head on one side > managed to work itself through the paint, then suddenly I was getting ERR KEY > on power up. Elecraft service has shorter screws to fix the issue. I just > put a small patch of black tape on the bare metal chip location under the > paddle housing, and all is OK. Some day I may ask for the modified screws > (or paddle, if it has to be replaced as a unit). Fixing the chip in the > black housing is another matter entirely. Shame it happened on a practically > brand new radio. > > 73, hope that helps, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick > From: Paul Smith <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: Tue, September 25, 2018 1:49 pm > To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Thanks guys for the words on my KX2. I was watching the volt meter I have on > the power supply. It dropped to 13V when I keyed the rig then shot up to 13.9 > and sat rock solid. I changed power supplys and all is well now. The little > radio seems to be happy again. And Thanks Don for the advice on NOT sending > the rig in. I will check my cables as well, tnx all de N0NBD Paul Smith > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:30:54 -0400 > From: Nr4c <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: elecraft digest <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 problem after latest sw update > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Restore the CONFIG copy you made before you updated FW. You did do a CONFIG > backup didn?t you? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Sep 26, 2018, at 3:30 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Yesterday I updated my K3's sw. After some shutdown and startups it came up >> as normal. >> >> But there is no reception. I get noise from my antenna. Unplug the antenna, >> no noise. >> Send a signal in the air on the tuned frequency ... nothing. No S-meter, no >> biep. >> >> What went wrong? I did reinstall all updates. No result. >> >> Twan - PA0KV >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:07:02 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: elecraft digest <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 problem after latest sw update > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I tuned into my inv-V with 8 Watt on 3.63 Mhz and > connected a 1 meter wire as antenna on my HP frequency counter. > The counter displayed 3.2177 Mhz ! An offset of approximately .412 Mhz > > Still no idea. Waiting on k3support@elecraft... > > Twan - pa0kv > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 10:07:54 -0400 > From: Art <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > > > When the K-Pod first came out, it was mentioned that the CTS of the K-Pod was > 1/2 of the VFO. That is still the case. Case in point: Set VFO CTS to 200. > K-Pod CTS is only 100. > > > Could the developers PLEASE write the code to allow the K-Pod to operate at > the same CTS as the VFO? > > > It would certainly be appreciated here. > > > 73, > > > Art KZ5D > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:01:45 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: Don Schroder <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Don, > > First check the DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 - it should be 4 volts > (or 1/2 the 8 volt regulator output voltage). If it is not correct, you > have a problem with the thermistor board - most likely a solder bridge. > > You should have 8 volts at the thermistor board pin 8. If that is not > correct, look carefully for solder bridges. That 8 volts comes directly > from the 8 volt regulator voltage rail. > > It does sound like you have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator, > but your voltage measurements on the thermistor board pins should be > investigated first before drawing any other conclusions. > > Make sure you have good results with the PLL range tests just after that. > > The exact frequency of the 4 MHz Oscillator is not critical at this > point - for now it only substantiates that the oscillator is working. If > you put a probe on C22, it will pull the frequency. If your frequency > counter is sufficiently accurate, wait until you have a good frequency > at TP1, and then measure the frequency with both the counter and the > internal counter probe using CAL FCTR. Adjust C22 so CAL FCTR frequency > is the same as your external counter. > > I do not know the accuracy of your counter, but mine is accurate to 10 > exp-9 and I can set C22 with it for good K2 Dial Calibration. There are > other methods for setting C22 that do not depend on the accuracy of your > frequency counter. When you can receive WWV at 10 or better 15 MHz, > look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration to > accurately set C22 and achieve good K2 dial calibration. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/26/2018 8:14 PM, Don Schroder wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Got to the subject location on my K2 kit #7818, and am having some >> difficulties with the tests. My frequency counter, when touched to the left >> side of trimmer capacitor C22, reads 3999.98 on the LCD. This makes me >> believe there is no problem with the frequency counter probe that I >> assembled. >> >> On page 63, under *4 MHz Oscillator Calibration, I selected CAL FCTR, and >> the LCD displays a rapidly changing frequency between 185.~ to 188.~. It >> does not show a frequency of 12090 kHz suggested by the manual. This tells >> me I have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator (since the frequency >> counter probe appeared to be ok). I then decided to check voltages, and >> discovered that I am missing some +5v signals from U4 and U5. >> >> Any suggestions on where to look next? I?d like to trace the 5v signals, but >> I don?t see how to do that using the schematics. I did measure voltages on >> the 8 pins of the Thermistor Board, they were all 0 volts! That didn?t seem >> right, either. >> >> Appreciate any suggestions! Thanks! >> Don, KE0PVQ >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:46:48 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > As I recall, most of the K-pod field testers thought the reduced CTS was > beneficial given the placement of the knob. > > Of course, they were most all CW contesters who wanted a slower tuning rate. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/27/2018 10:07 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote: >> >> >> When the K-Pod first came out, it was mentioned that the CTS of the K-Pod >> was 1/2 of the VFO. That is still the case. Case in point: Set VFO CTS to >> 200. K-Pod CTS is only 100. >> >> Could the developers PLEASE write the code to allow the K-Pod to operate at >> the same CTS as the VFO? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:43:41 +0000 > From: Don Schroder <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues > Message-ID: > > <mw2pr02mb3849454bdf2729247b10a6ffaa...@mw2pr02mb3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Don, > Board U6 pin 5 > Thank you for the suggestions! The DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 is 0 > volts. In fact, all pins of U6, except pin 6, are 0 volts. Pin 6 is less than > 1 volt. > > I saw a bridge between C96 and RFC10, the schematic shows these two > components connecting together, so that should be ok. I?m still looking for > bridges. > > Could you elaborate a little on the ^voltage rail*? How do I identify the > rail on a schematic, or can I? Which component is the 8 volt regulator? I > feel I should know the answers to these questions, I must be having a senior > moment. Your help and advice is much appreciarted! > > Thanks! > Don, KE0PVQ > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: Don Wilhelm<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:01 AM > To: Don Schroder<mailto:[email protected]>; > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment and Test, Part II issues > > Don, > > First check the DC voltage at RF Board U6 pin 5 - it should be 4 volts > (or 1/2 the 8 volt regulator output voltage). If it is not correct, you > have a problem with the thermistor board - most likely a solder bridge. > > You should have 8 volts at the thermistor board pin 8. If that is not > correct, look carefully for solder bridges. That 8 volts comes directly > from the 8 volt regulator voltage rail. > > It does sound like you have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator, > but your voltage measurements on the thermistor board pins should be > investigated first before drawing any other conclusions. > > Make sure you have good results with the PLL range tests just after that. > > The exact frequency of the 4 MHz Oscillator is not critical at this > point - for now it only substantiates that the oscillator is working. If > you put a probe on C22, it will pull the frequency. If your frequency > counter is sufficiently accurate, wait until you have a good frequency > at TP1, and then measure the frequency with both the counter and the > internal counter probe using CAL FCTR. Adjust C22 so CAL FCTR frequency > is the same as your external counter. > > I do not know the accuracy of your counter, but mine is accurate to 10 > exp-9 and I can set C22 with it for good K2 Dial Calibration. There are > other methods for setting C22 that do not depend on the accuracy of your > frequency counter. When you can receive WWV at 10 or better 15 MHz, > look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration to > accurately set C22 and achieve good K2 dial calibration. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 9/26/2018 8:14 PM, Don Schroder wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Got to the subject location on my K2 kit #7818, and am having some >> difficulties with the tests. My frequency counter, when touched to the left >> side of trimmer capacitor C22, reads 3999.98 on the LCD. This makes me >> believe there is no problem with the frequency counter probe that I >> assembled. >> >> On page 63, under *4 MHz Oscillator Calibration, I selected CAL FCTR, and >> the LCD displays a rapidly changing frequency between 185.~ to 188.~. It >> does not show a frequency of 12090 kHz suggested by the manual. This tells >> me I have a problem with the PLL Reference Oscillator (since the frequency >> counter probe appeared to be ok). I then decided to check voltages, and >> discovered that I am missing some +5v signals from U4 and U5. >> >> Any suggestions on where to look next? I?d like to trace the 5v signals, but >> I don?t see how to do that using the schematics. I did measure voltages on >> the 8 pins of the Thermistor Board, they were all 0 volts! That didn?t seem >> right, either. >> >> Appreciate any suggestions! Thanks! >> Don, KE0PVQ >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 173, Issue 24 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
