You don't need the drawings. If someone would scan the existing case and share 
the scans it is simple to print.

I don't know what kind of copyright and/or patent issues that creates.

73,
Joe kk0sd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Neil Zampella
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:45 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Tuner question

You know, the point is moot.   I would assume that Wayne & Eric looked at 
getting a replacement vendor, but then after getting bids based on the sales 
history of the EC2, they determined that it would not be feasible at the price 
point they wanted to sell them at.

Now, it would be great if they could release a PDF of the engineering drawings 
of the EC2, so that those who wanted to create a KAT100-2 could still do that.

Neil, KN3iLZ

On 12/22/2018 11:42 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
> To the original point, there is no difficulty finding a different vendor, 
> there are no tooling costs, and producing parts in small quantity is not cost 
> prohibitive.
>
> Some people need to be right. Others want the right answer. Only the latter 
> is of interest.
>
> Enough said.
>
> 73,
> Josh W6XU
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you spread $5K over a projected sales quantity of 100 (there were 
>> not of EC2 enclosures sold), then you have a tooling cost of $50 per 
>> enclosure.
>> Add to that the cost of administrative support, creating web pages, packing 
>> and shipping labor, and you have an EC2 enclosure that has to sell for over 
>> $150 to produce any profit.  About double the original customer cost of the 
>> EC2.
>>
>> It is different if you can project selling thousands of the items.
>> Enough said.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 12/22/2018 10:38 PM, W2xj wrote:
>>> You can buy a 3D printer for under $5K and make metal work on an as needed 
>>> basis. That is where the auto industry is going.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 19:03, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Josh,
>>>>
>>>> I may not be up to speed, but there are startup costs for anything.  Those 
>>>> costs have to be added to the product cost and for small volumes, it can 
>>>> be prohibited.
>>>> Entering a CAD file, getting scheduling from a small shop that may have a 
>>>> full schedule already can be costly.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/22/2018 9:16 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you're not up to speed on 21st century sheet metal 
>>>>> fabrication.
>>>>>
>>>>> Small volume parts like this would be cut on a laser and bent with a CNC 
>>>>> press brake. The only setup is loading the programs and there is no 
>>>>> tooling. If someone draws the parts using a CAD program like Solid Edge, 
>>>>> the resulting 3D models can be utilized directly by the vendor. Even 
>>>>> small job shops have laser cutting ability, especially for small gauge 
>>>>> material like this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

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