Since when did nationality = race? Why do you assume Ken’s comment was based on how Martin looks? He may have never seen a photo of him. I certainly haven’t, that I can recall. His name sounds like it’s Asian. Is his ethnicity Chinese, Japanese, Korean? I have no idea. Ken may have assumed, I gather incorrectly, that he was an immigrant from one of those nations. Each of those nations certainly have different cultures, with different sets of cultural norms. Ken made a very awkward statement. Not one I would make. But, I think branding it as racism is more in the eye of the beholder then the pen of the author. 73 de Carl N8VZ
Sent from my iPhone =========================== Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ 17 Coventry Lane Athens, Ohio 45701-3718 [email protected] www.n8vz.com EM89wh IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070 PSK and JT65 Forever! =========================== > On Apr 10, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Scott Manthe <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is what Ken said: > Perhaps the matter stems from the nationality of MFJ's owner and a > different set of values. > > He doesn't mention "culture" at all. He mentions nationality, but since > Martin Jue is an American, born in Mississippi, what is he talking about? Ken > is saying that Jue doesn't "look" like an American and has different values > because of the way he looks. Isn't that racist? If that's not real racism, > then what is? Ken didn't call him a pejorative name, but he did assume the > Martin has different values based on the way he looks. Isn't that ugly enough > for you? > > 73, > Scott N9AA > >> On 4/10/19 9:20 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote: >> What gets me is that Ken was not commenting on a race but a culture. He was >> completely wrong in his assessment of the culture to which the head of MFJ >> belonged, but that’s another issue. It should not have been implied he was >> a racist for that comment. An apology is due, IMHO. The word “racist” is >> thrown around too frequently today in ways that are on the verge of >> rendering the word meaningless. At that point real racists take cover under >> the umbrella thus created by the misuse of the term. That’s very >> unfortunate, because real racism is hideous and needs to be forcefully >> countered and confronted everywhere it raises its ugly head. >> >> 73, >> >> Carl >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> =========================== >> Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ >> 17 Coventry Lane >> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718 >> >> [email protected] >> www.n8vz.com >> EM89wh >> >> IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070 >> >> PSK and JT65 Forever! >> =========================== >> >>>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Joan via Elecraft <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you, Jim N4ST, for expressing something which I had become afraid to >>>> (having been stung by wasps too many times) >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Joan KX2CW >>>> >>>> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet. >>>> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh. >>>> >>>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:41, Jim - N4ST <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ken, >>>> >>>> The Internet has created a mob of hyper-sensitive hype-critical keyboard >>>> warriors. >>>> Any comment, including this one is likely to bring on the slings and >>>> arrows. >>>> >>>> With respect to ham gear, yes, roughly speaking you get what you pay for, >>>> but sometimes marginal performance is much better than no performance. >>>> Most of the MFJ stuff I have purchased has served the purpose, especially >>>> in >>>> my younger years when more expensive alternatives were out of reach. >>>> I also drive Fords & Chevys and not Range Rovers and Mercedes. >>>> >>>> ___________ >>>> 73, >>>> Jim - N4ST >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Ken G Kopp >>>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 08:16 >>>> To: Elecraft <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] My "MFJ Posting" >>>> >>>> I am dismayed at the view some took of my posting. I intended absolutely >>>> no >>>> racial or eletist content ... in any way ... and apologize to anyone who >>>> read it that way. >>>> >>>> 73 ! >>>> >>>> Ken Kopp - K0PP >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
