It's already possible to use a K3 without a computer. I've done that in the middle of a contest when I had to re-boot my computer. I logged on paper until I had access to the log when I added those contacts.
Regarding computer-related problems, having provided on-line and telephone tech support for Gateway, the majority of troubles with which I helped were user-induced. I liken the issue to when I had responsibility for a small phone system--lack of knowledge on using that "tool." I assert we need to have sufficient knowledge to operate and maintain our computers, just like our radios. Sometimes we need to seek help from others, often found on this list. I also assert too many ops aren't conversant with their equipment and much less with their equipment manuals. Of course, we all do dumb things and I am near the top of that list. Still, I update my PDF manuals and make use of them. For Windows, Google is your friend. It is more useful than trying to find help on Microsoft's web site, in my experience. I use electronic loggers for many reasons. Except for the fine products at QRPWorks, I use a computer and the appropriate logger. I am a keyboard wiz and can type much faster than I can print. BTW, I have often used the K3 Utility with a USB hub. But, not all USB hubs are created equal and I always bypass a hub when troubleshooting connectivity issues. I would rather have the K4 firmware space used for features rather than replacing functions best done on a computer or other external device. It is 2019 and computers belong in our shacks, IMHO. On SOTA peaks, that may be a different story. Still, I prefer a non-radio solution for logging, like a notebook computer, than having a logger in my radio. Save that battery for operating! Just my humble (or not) opinion. BTW, I enjoyed several conversations with Elecraft personnel at the IDXC this weekend and with Bill, AE6JV. I also noticed WA6HHQ on APRS. It was an excellent convention once again and I hope the plans to move it to the Wyndham next year revert back to the Visalia Convention Center with its larger facilities. 73, Bill, K8TE So, speaking of the K4 . . . When Eric asked a few weeks ago what we might like to have if there were to be a next generation transceiver, near the top of my list was adding whatever it would take to make it unnecessary to connect the transceiver to an outboard computer -- so far as reasonably possible -- ever, for anything. Eric eventually closed that thread and I don't mean to reopen the wider question. But would something along those lines ease the kinds of problems we've been reading about here lately? Ted, KN1CBR -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

