Hello Ed, the HA1YA and DB6NT transverters are also considerably better than 
the DEMI designs which are 3 generations behind. I have been in serious pursuit 
of low PN and low IMD on 144 and 432 and I found that either of the 
aforementioned transverters with a K3S were many times better than anything 
else. I looked at almost everything out there, it took 2 years but there really 
was no other choice. There used to be 3 choices but sadly the Anglian (144) and 
Iceni (432) kits from G4DDK are no longer an option, on 70cms I have an Iceni. 
With the K3S , Iceni and a TV TX I am achieving TX 3rd orders of -53dBc, I am 
so pleased with this. The composite noise @ 20kHz is 33dBc/Hz better than any 
other radio that I have measured. On 2m 25dB better for composite noise I am 
still working on 2m intemods, so far the whole chain is -40dbc 3rd orders but I 
would like to improve this by at least 6dB, the problem is an LDMOS driver and 
nothing to do with the K3S or HA1YA transverter.

I have a bit more to say about the K3S and TX IMD on 6m in another post.

Regards

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Edward R Cole
Sent: 05 July 2019 18:02
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject)

Kjeld,

I agree with Conrad PA5Y,  both Kuhne Engineering or  HA1YA make very good 
transverters and are available in EU.

I would add the DEMI L-series transverter which now is made by a company called 
Q5 (located in US) for any NA hams reading the mail on this topic.
I use DEMI transverters on digital-eme on 144, 1296, and higher (have had 
144,222, 432, 1296, 3456, and 10-GHz models).

I also use preamps located at antennas on 6m, 2m, 432, 1296+  Even though local 
electronic noise can be high at times, when its not they make a huge 
difference.  Only for 6m (50-MHz) would I agree that it might not give much 
help (but if you have a K3, it needs either a PR6 or other preamp to bring up 
6m &10m sensitivity; not an issue with K3s or K4).  MY KX3 with internal preamp 
ON = my K3 + PR6 in sensitivity on 6m)

The early reports on the IC-9700 were not favorable for freq stability (though 
I read they had addressed this, lately).  Still investment in K3s + good 
transverter will beat the IC-9700 without a doubt.

73, Ed - KL7UW

From: Kjeld Holm <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only
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Digital modes on 144MHz only

I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. 
If you look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use outside 
digital modes on 144MHz) what would you prefer

1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
2)   IC-9700

In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier.

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld


73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
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