A zillion years ago, I was maintaining some “groupware” for engineers at HP 
(Notesfiles). I was amazed to learn that some people used a different set of 
commands than I did. They found some bugs in those clearly superfluous 
commands. Despite their obviously mistaken approach to using the software, I 
fixed the bugs. :-)

So, be open to different uses of a product. Me, I keep Pacific time on my watch 
and UTC on my KX3. I log my SOTA activations in UTC. I reset the KX3 clock 
before each activation.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Chuck and all,
> 
> How many actually use the clock in the K3, K3S, KX3 or KX2?
> I certainly don't.  In the case of the KX3 it is used to time the charging of 
> the internal batteries - good use.
> 
> I can see a ham without a watch or cell phone to want the rig to display the 
> time for logging, but for me, my good old Timex on my wrist tells me what 
> time to log.  The clock in my KX3 is more difficult to access than simply 
> glancing at my wrist!
> 
> I have never even set the clock in my K3 or KX3!  Nor do I feel a need to do 
> so.
> 
> As far as the K4 Linux software/firmware being internet connected, I have my 
> reservations about that.  I have enough stuff connected to the internet, and 
> someone will have to demonstrate the benefit of my ham radio being connected 
> to the internet in addition to my computers.
> 
> If connection of the K4 to the internet is to be done, I have concerns about 
> security and personal privacy.  Even Linux is subject to bad stuff from the 
> internet - it is not entirely secure, it is just that the number of users is 
> small compared to other OS versions and hackers just do not bother for most 
> cases.
> 
> When my refrigerator or microwave begins to listen in to my conversations, I 
> begin to worry about the BIG Brother consequences.
> 
> BTW, I do not have an Alexa or Siri device for those security reasons. I can 
> easily use a switch on the wall to operate a light switch and it is secure. I 
> can turn on my home theater or my computer AV application when I want to hear 
> music or view videos.
> 
> Call me old-fashioned, but I like to have control of my environment. The 
> Internet Of Things seems to be fraught with exposures and dangers that I am 
> not willing to accept.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 10/18/2019 2:03 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>> Is a more accurate clock possible? I imagine that depends on available chips 
>> but it’s a common topic.
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