Sorry about the typo I meant. So please discuss why the K3S has poor IMD 
performance on 6m.

73

Conrad PA5Y



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Conrad PA5Y
Sent: 14 December 2019 22:17
To: Douglas Zwiebel <[email protected]>; Elecraft Reflector 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Technical discussions vs waffle

While these discussions are sometimes interesting they are not really specific 
to Elecraft radios. 

I have a K3S and I am looking for the occasional technical insight. Instead I 
read a lot of general pontification or the constant bigging up of Elecraft by 
sycophants. That post the other day about asking to talk to the CEO was just 
plain weird IMO!

I will tell you this, Elecraft make PAs that have poor IMD performance. Apart 
from that I am fairly happy with my K3S but it is not going to engender the 
kind of hero worship that I see on here. 

This is an Elecraft forum is it not? So please discuss why the K3S has power 
IMD performance on 6m and why Elecraft think this is OK? They made a lot of 
them!

I think I understand the waffle. These discussions used to be confined to 80m 
but now there is too much man made noise 😊

I am only half serious but is there not a Ham Radio waffle forum where you can 
wax lyrical until your hearts content?

73

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Douglas Zwiebel
Sent: 14 December 2019 21:14
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reaching across the chronological divide

I was caught off guard by Wayne's post.  What was he trying to say?

Was he trying to say why the K3 is going away and now we have the K4's?
Maybe.  It's prettier and more likely to attract the younger crowd based on 
looks?  Could be, but that price?  Nope.

I got interested in ham radio when a friend in the 7th grade got his 
license...or maybe it was 8th grade.  I thought it was "cool" that he was 
talking with stations in other states that were not next door to our state 
(NJ).  One day, my mom drove me over and I caught him working DX (Europe).
Wow.  That did it for me.  It was like magic.  And Morse code, difficult as it 
may have been to learn, was another aspect of the magic.

After my General class came in the mail, I swore off CW.  Good bye forever.  I 
spent the first couple years working DX, building up my totals (on mostly SSB, 
but even AM back then.  I still remember working ZD3E on 10m AM).  But pretty 
quickly (relative term), I ran out of stuff to work.
Where was all the "good" DX?  On CW!  So back I went...and loaded up my log 
with "good" DX, especially the deep Asian Soviet states.  I just loved their CW 
tone (not clean).

And one day, I happened to run into a DX contest.  This was like a year's worth 
of DXing rolled up into 1 day (I didn't know the contest ran for 48 hours).  It 
was heaven.  And that started me on contesting.

I agree with the comments that contesting is growing.  It is!  See, for 
example, https://cqww.com/stats.htm

What happened in the 21st century?  Nobody knows for sure, but it was big (at 
least for contesting).

I also agree with the comment that not everybody contests for the entire
contest.  Hardly!   See
https://cqww.com/blog/operating-time-for-single-operator-entries/
This is a bit dated, but since I am the one who does this calculation, I can 
tell you that i continues even today.  Most guy give out points...not trying to 
win.

Most entrants (not participants, but actual entrants) only operate a total of 
15 hours or less.  That's like 3 hours in the morning and 4 hours in evening on 
Sat and Sun.  Not much really.  But for today's active kids, who has time to 
devote to contesting when they can be gaming?  Most gaming is completed in 
short bursts of time.  Same with social media.  With contesting, well, you 
gotta wait until it's over at 2359z Sunday.  And then it takes a long time to 
get anything close to real results.  Long time = weeks to get the raw scores 
(which is a GIANT improvement over the old days).

Now a real marketing question.  Does it matter if the newbies to ham radio are 
teenagers?  So what if the newbies are all "new retirees?" I don't know if that 
is true, but for me, inflow is inflow.  I know lots of guys my age who wanted 
to be a ham when they were my age when I got my license, but didn't, but now 
still do and are....finally getting their ticket.  AND, they have more $$ to 
spend than some 13 year old (like I and my friend were when we got interested). 
 How does "age of entry" = maintenance of the population?  Whatever.

Enough rambling, cuz that's all I have to say.  I have the next 2 weeks off 
from work and I'm catching up on "other" radio stuff, like this reflector.

de Doug KR2Q
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