Mark,

I trust you are using a DMM and not a VOM or other meter that applies a high voltage for resistance readings - those can destroy solid state devices.

The PA transistor collectors are connected directly to the +12 volt power rail, so a short anywhere on that power rail will be indicated as a short on the collectors of Q7 and Q8. Note that this is the first time a resistance reading to the +12v power rail is done.

Normally, there is an electrolytic capacitor on that voltage rail which will show a resistance value that starts out rather low (about 500 to 1000 ohms) and will climb with time as the capacitor charges to a higher value.  The initial resistance will depend on the voltage your DMM uses for measuring resistance.

So if you are seeing a direct short to ground, it is not necessarily a problem with Q7 or Q8.  To check the transistors themselves, remove T3 which will remove Q7/Q8 from the +12 volt power rail.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 10:39 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
Don - The PA’s have never seen any power nor have I tried to transmit yet.  In the morning I’m going to take all the panels and boards off the RF board and see if I still pass all the resistance checks.  I don’t understand how I can pass the resistance check and then see this behavior when the boards and panels are installed.

Mark W8EWH

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:28 PM Don Wilhelm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Mark,

    The most usual cause of a Q7/Q8 short to ground is that the thermal
    insulators are not installed properly.
    However, your statement that you see the same with the heatsink off
    indicates that the Q7 or Q8 transistors have been damaged by a
    collector
    to emitter short.  If the K2 was subjected to a transmit without the
    heatsink installed, that could be reason for the demise of Q7/Q8
    transistors.

    Make certain that the PA mounting hardware is installed correctly,
    especially the shoulder washers.

    73,
    Don W3FPR

    On 1/4/2020 9:11 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
    > I'm in the final stages of my K2 build, but having a problem
    with Q7 and Q8
    > shorting to ground.  When I did my Resistance Checks on pg 74, I
    had 3.66K
    > ohms to ground at the Q7 collector.  So that was fine. But when
    I put all
    > the boards and panels on, then attached Q7 and Q8 to the heat
    sink, I see
    > about 135 ohms between the Q7 and Q8 collectors and ground.  I
    assume
    > that's unacceptable.  I see the same with the heat sink off. 
    Suggestions?


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