Hi Lyn - thanks for the reply!
I have 3 acres of wooded land.
Its pretty much on two different levels.
The house is located on the lower level.
And from there the grade goes upwards about 30 feet- and then levels off to the 
second level.

Many elm trees which can support an antenna height of about 45 feet.
And I can cut through a path through them if necessary.

I have a 40m moxon pointed towards Asia at 45 feet hanging over solid rock
I've made a few DX contacts with it during the years when propagation was 
peaking.
But right now I think its really to low to the ground to be useful.

I'm interested in what you have in mind.
Thanks
Duane

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> Duane -
> 
> There are other wire antenna options that will far outperform a simple
> dipole, or for that matter a 2EL yagi.
> 
> How much space do you have available?
> 
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
> 
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> From what I understand - solid rock below a raised vertical is not the best
> option for performance.
> With an underlying geography of many feet of solid metamorphic rock - that
> would probably rule out the low angle benefits of vertical antennas.  
> 
> Consequently, over the years, every 40m vertical I've ever put up has been
> out-performed by a dipole at .41 wavelength.  I've also tried the DX-Half
> Square and vertical Delta Loop with the same results.
> 
> It looks to me like my only option to outperform a 40m dipole - is a tower
> and (at minimum) a 2EL yagi.
> 
> Would that assumption be correct?
> Thanks
> Duane
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