Hi,

That was me... I used to use my Icom 756 Pro, to watch the Doppler on changes in the ionosphere, and on Meteors. The K3 uses steps to correct frequency, while the Icom did not. Analog vs. Digital corrections.

Accuracy is not an issue, it is the steps... They destroy the continuity of the tracking... I should have some captures if you are interested. Email me off list and I'll send a set.

The issue for me, I am looking for changes in frequency, on the order of sub-1 hz., not looking to get an exact reading on the frequency, just changes in frequency across minutes, not days or hours.

I don't need to be dead on for frequency, but I do need to have a straight line that is affected by Doppler, and path changes. I can't get that with my K3 without those annoying steps.

Keep in mind we are talking worst case 6 or 10 Hz., and the steps appear to be far, far, smaller than that...

So... I have given this aspect of the hobby up. I did just get the TXCO installed along with a lot of extras on my K3, and the steps are longer, but still there... I will get some older rig that is analog in nature and return to that aspect of the hobby then...

I was able to watch echos from aircraft between Eugene, and Portland Oregon, (about 100 miles apart), using the KGW TV, (Ch. 2), aural carrier as a source. I got the coolest traces of Doppler shifts caused by the aircraft movement. Meteors were far more interesting... Anyway, it is not an issue of Frequency accuracy, bit one of how the rig makes adjustments. I would love to just turn off the steps, and accept the drift over longer times. Oh well... Hope that helps... It is NOT the K3 having an issue with measuring frequency...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/24/20 10:11 AM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:
Sometime (probably last year) I remember seeing a discussion of why the K3/K3S receiver isn't suitable to do high-precision frequency measurement tests at the level of hundredths of a Hertz. As I vaguely recall, the receiver is designed so that its frequency actually varies a bit intentionally, and I remember someone posting a plot demonstrating this. However, I'm striking out on finding any of those posts. Can anyone either help with them, or point to any other discussion/explanation on this?

Thanks much,

Frank K6FOD

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