Hi all,This brings back old memories. In 1962, I was in Vocational School in St 
Paul, MN studying Electronics. My instructors told me to get a 1st Phone w 
radar endorsement as it would make it easier to get a job. So I did at the FCC 
office in St Paul, and since then every job I had, required a 1st or 2nd class 
and some jobs a radar endorsement.I had to renewed it by getting 5 endorsements 
from officials in charge of the stations. I did not like it when it was 
converted to General Radio Telephone and life time.I got my ham license in 2011 
as I could not do CW. I tried but always failed.
73Jim HK7SSS
In a message dated 4/29/2020 4:10:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 
6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way 
before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as 
a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think 
it is a great change for us hams.

73,
-de John NI0K
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