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1. Re: Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery (Dave Fugleberg)
2. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Jim Brown)
3. KX3 Firmware (Ray Soifer)
4. Evening Net Announcement & Invitation (kevinr)
5. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Roger D Johnson)
6. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 192, Issue 42 (Martin)
7. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Phil Kane)
8. K3 - Using Mono Phone Jack Adapter in "Key" Port (Brian Deuby)
9. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (John Kosko)
10. Testing (Bob DeHaney)
11. Re: Power Supplies and Voltage drop (Phil Kane)
12. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
13. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
14. KX3 internal battery charger normal behavior? (BT * )
(Mike Parkes)
15. OT: The Colpitts mystery (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197)
16. Evening Net Invitation notes, addenda, and errata (kevinr)
17. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Fred Jensen)
18. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (John Simmons)
19. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery ([email protected])
20. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (EricJ)
21. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Macy monkeys)
22. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Brian Denley)
23. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Phil Kane)
24. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Phil Kane)
25. Elecraft Evening Net Report (kevinr)
26. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Nr4c)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:38:31 -0500
From: Dave Fugleberg <[email protected]>
To: Gerry Villhauer <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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Yep, that was the textbook for the Communications class I had in
electronics school in 1983. One of the requirements to pass the class was
to pass the General Radiotelephone exam. The FCC Examiner came over from
the St Paul field office to the technical school to administer the exam to
the class.
Shortly after that, I went to the field office and passed the General and
Advanced amateur exams...most of the technical portions were nearly
identical to the General Radiotelephone.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:35 AM Gerry Villhauer <[email protected]> wrote:
The text book of choice for the commercial license test was: Electronic
Communications by Shrader. I have a copy, 2nd addition. I used it for
passing my 2nd and 1st class commercial test...Now the General Radio
Telecommunication License.
Gerry, W0GV
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:41:01 -0700
From: Jim Brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
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On 4/29/2020 5:31 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
Unless the list is capable of being re-configured (possibly with the '
*convert_html_to_plaintext* ' option?), I would urge some notice be given
to users that this list is incompatible with Mail for Windows 10,
This reflector has been happily operating for 20 years with plain text.
I subscribe to about 30 lists, half of which operate with plain text. I
suggest that users get with THAT program, rather than suggest that these
lists are wrong.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Soifer <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Firmware
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Dear Elecraft,
I'm sure you're getting lots of requests for FT8 but I have a simpler request.
Would it be possible to add 75 baud RTTY to the KX3 firmware?
BARTG and other RTTY groups are increasingly using it.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:44 -0700
From: kevinr <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Evening Net Announcement & Invitation
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Good Morning,
I have been running the Elecraft CW Net since 2002.? It started on 20
meters but requests from the West Coast had me start the 40 meter net a
year later.? I have received numerous email messages and over the air
requests for a mid week evening net.? I will finally get started on that
this evening.
I could run the net as I normally do: call for check ins and then work
them in order.? Then call CQ again and work the new list. All while
using directed net rules.? Tonight I would like to try a round robin net
so others will act as net control.? Think of it as a training exercise.?
I keep track of things using two sheets of paper, one for notes, the
other for the final list.? While I could have been using computers to do
all of the logging I purposely have kept computers out of my radio
shack.? I am stuck in front of them during most of the week I would
rather spend some time away from a screen while I am on the air.
But, I digress.? If you want to be part of the round robin effort simply
keep track of who you worked.? I will try to keep track but if all goes
well someone will be able to work outside of my listening area.? Send
your results to me via the radio at the end of the net or email them to
me directly.? I expect the first few attempts will be chaotic.? This is
normal, it is part of the learning process.? ECN has changed over time,
I expect this net will change as well.
I will start on or near 7047 kHz at 8 PM PDT or 0300z.? Then we see what
happens.? This is only an experiment, if it works out that would be
fantastic if it doesn't that's OK too.? Forty meters may not work
tonight or people may be busy with something else or there are other
nets active taking up the space.? I just want to see if all those people
who asked me to do this will be on the air and active.? If this time and
technique works out the new net should be self supporting allowing new
folks to join in at any time with everyone doing part of the work.? I
will start the nets and create the reports until someone else volunteers
to take over.
Please join the Elecraft Evening Net on or near 7047 kHz at 8 PM PDT or
0300z.
If users of other modes (other than CW that is) want to participate
please feel free to start calling at 8 PM (0300z) on your mode's
favorite frequency.? Then send your net report to me so I can collate it
with the others.? Cross mode contacts would be fun once we get this
running well.
Until this evening 73,
??? Kevin.? KD5ONS
-
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember?d?
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:03:27 -0400
From: Roger D Johnson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I was stationed with the Coast Guard in Kodiak, Alaska between Summer
1976 and Summer 1978. I flew up to Anchorage to take my Extra exam before
an examiner. Probably sometime in 1977.
73, Roger
On 4/29/2020 10:47 AM, Ted Roycraft wrote:
I took the test for Extra administered by an FCC examiner, David Popkin, in NYC
in 1964. So there were still FCC examiners then. Funny that I still remember
David Popkin's name but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
73, Ted, W2ZK
On 4/29/2020 12:27 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to early
'80s.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:21:47 +0200
From: Martin <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 192, Issue 42
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Well, this list is not incompatible with Mail for Windows10, Mail for
Windows10 is incompatible with most lists.
Am 29.04.20 um 18:16 schrieb [email protected]:
Unless the list is capable of being re-configured (possibly with the '
*convert_html_to_plaintext* ' option?), I would urge some notice be given
to users that this list is incompatible with Mail for Windows 10, since
there does not appear to be any sort of error feedback other than that
provided by other users who let you know your message did not get through.
--
73, Martin DM4iM
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:28:56 -0700
From: Phil Kane <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 4/29/2020 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
"solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
I use Windows 10 on all my PCs and my wife's Microsoft Surface. We just
don't use Mail. To paraphrase an old cartoon - is it OK to wear jeans
in school? Yes it's OK to wear jeans in school , but it it not OK to
wear jeans in THIS school".
I too have used Thunderbird for at least 20 years, after I switched from
PC-Mail and the IBM-OS/2 operating system to Windows NT. My arm still
hurts from being twisted.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:30:46 -0400
From: Brian Deuby <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Using Mono Phone Jack Adapter in "Key" Port
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I'm considering attempting modify the operation of my UR5CDX CT 755
paddle so that it acts like a cootie. I understand that this can be done
by using a mono phone jack adapter on the end of the CT 755 cable (which
terminates with a stereo jack) and plugging it into the "Key" port on
the K3.
I can't find anything in any of my K3 manuals that cautions against this
- but I do have a vague recollection of seeing some caution of this
nature somewhere.
Is there any reason I can't safely plug a mono adapter jack into the
"Key" port on the K3?
Thanks,
Brian K8GRR
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:37:54 +0000
From: John Kosko <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
Message-ID:
<dm6pr04mb5306a9a1b28fd04cd9d15466a1...@dm6pr04mb5306.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
I?m running a one year old ASUS using Windows 10 and Hotmail/Outlook and Win10
is NOT in Win7 mode. I?m not aware of a problem, although I didn?t get any
Elecraft emails yesterday?odd.
Regards, John K8TCT K3S s/n 11718
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:56:04 +0200
From: "Bob DeHaney" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Testing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I was given my Conditional Test by W4MLE(SK) in 1960. He was also my Elmer and
a great guy.
Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:12:49 -0700
From: Phil Kane <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Supplies and Voltage drop
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 4/25/2020 8:21 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Here is what I did to remedy the situation.??? I obtained two 10-32 x 2"
brass screws from the hardware store.? I got 4 nuts, 2 for each screw, 4
flat washers, 2 for each screw and two wing nuts.?? I then cut the head
off of each screw and filed a flat spot about 1/2 " long and deep enough
to removed the threads.
I fixed my brand-new Astron SS-50M a bit differently. One set screw on
the connection block was seized up, so Astron sent me two new blocks
with instructions to open the case and replace them. When I opened the
case I saw that the leads to the blocks had ring terminals held to the
blocks by a short screw. I removed the existing blocks and replaced
them with 10-32 x 2" brass screws. I used two short plates of ABS from
TAP Plastics to serve as insulated spacers (one inside the case and one
outside the case) and drilled the appropriate holes to permit the screws
to be held through the case with appropriate nuts and washers. The
leads to my power distribution board) are AWG 6 terminated in standard
electrical lugs held by massive set-screws and are fastened onto the
screws by appropriate nuts. If I have to remove them I keep a Spintite
(nut driver) nearby. Works great so far!
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:32:33 -0700
From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ah, sadly, no. As much as I like to blame Microsoft, we have to start
with RFC-1341 and Multipurpose Independent Mail Extensions.
Microsoft did not contribute to that RFC.
MIME allows more than one formatting option. We had something called
"Rich Text" but Netscape brought us HTML as a formatting option, and
that made it possible to embed code that would load malware on your
computer.
That's when List Servers got the ability to strip formatting -- it put a
stop to people blaming the list for the poor security in their OS.
HTML is a poor choice, but it's also supported in just about every
E-Mail client.
This is where we can blame Microsoft (some), but it's hard to render
HTML and detect all the possible issues.
73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT
P.S. Thunderbird is much better, but this issue remains.
On 4/29/20 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
Respectfully I offer the following.
So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
"solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:33:32 -0700
From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
It depends on the version and how it is configured.
On 4/29/20 8:20 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
Apparently Microsoft Outlook has none of the issues being described.
73
Lyn, W0LEN
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
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On 4/29/20 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
Respectfully I offer the following.
So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
"solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
=====================================CUT====================================
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...and that is why I run Linux as my main OS!
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:05:08 +0000
From: Mike Parkes <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery charger normal behavior? (BT
* )
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I set a 12 hour charge cycle on some 2000mah Eneloops in the KX3.
After the charge cycle had completed the asterisk remained on when checking
voltage, showing BT*11.6V (using vfo B). Is that normal?
I checked Menu > Bat Charge, and it showed CHG OFF so the charging was
completed apparently but I wasn't sure about the ( * ) remaining on.
- Mike AB7RU
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:25:20 -0700
From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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I took the commercial tests in '69. I seem to recall having to learn
the various oscillator circuits.
I was an ATN2 on night check in VA-125 in Lemoore, CA.
The night check AT shop Chief wanted to get his 2nd class
Radiotelephone so he could work
on aircraft electronics when he retired, so he had the whole night
check shop studying.
I'd been doing electronics and radio for a number of years, so I was
teaching everyone.
A bunch of us went up to Fresno for the exam and I was the first one
done. I was also the only one
who got a 1st Radiotelephone, the rest got 3rd at best, even the Chief.
I managed to pick up a broadcast endorsement in SC after I got out,
and then many years later
when I started sailing on tall ships, I heard about GMDSS, so studied
that and added GMDSS Operator/Maintainer
with a Radar endorsement on top of the GROL that my 1st had turned
into. It turns out, for international
compliance, the USCG required a STCW-approved course to add GMDSS to
my Merchant Mariners Credential,
so I had to do a 10-day course, with practical evaluations, and essay
questions! So I did that, arguing with the
instructor the whole time, simce I gave correct answers, but not what
he expected. The other three people
in the course dropped out quickly- their company had sent them, but
they actually didn't need it on their MMC.
73, doug
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:58:06 -0700
From: kevinr <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] Evening Net Invitation notes, addenda, and errata
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Good Afternoon,
?? I have received a few messages about activities on 40 meters at my
chosen time and frequency.? CWT may push us up in frequency but I don't
want to get too far into the digital portion of the band.? The old
novice band may be better between 7100 and 7125 if the QRS folks don't
mind.? I plan to start around 7050 kHz and see how it goes.? The CWT
activity may not reach that high.
? As for procedures I will start with a preamble of some sort
explaining what we're trying to do.? Then call CQ.? I'll handle the
first round logging questions and comments.? Then I will pass net
control to whomever volunteers (or the one I pick :)? NCS duties are not
tough.? Just call CQ and take notes.? Work your group and choose the
next victim :)? When that thins out pass control back to me and I'll
list questions, answers, and comments.? One more call and then let the
net go free.? I have never closed the Elecraft CW Net, I just let it go
free. Occasionally contacts continue between the attendees.? WAS
contacts happen too.? It just feels wrong to assume one can control
activity.? It is hard enough to maintain control of a net :)
? Evening net starts at 8 PM PDT (0300z) on or near 7050 kHz unless
forced to move into the 7100-7125 range.
? 73,
???? Kevin.? KD5ONS
-
The play's the thing
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:14:11 -0700
From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to
early '80s.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:08:15 -0500
From: John Simmons <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about
6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way
before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as
a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think
it is a great change for us hams.
73,
-de John NI0K
Fred Jensen wrote on 4/29/2020 4:14 PM:
I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s
to early '80s.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:46:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi all,This brings back old memories. In 1962, I was in Vocational School in St
Paul, MN studying Electronics. My instructors told me to get a 1st Phone w
radar endorsement as it would make it easier to get a job. So I did at the FCC
office in St Paul, and since then every job I had, required a 1st or 2nd class
and some jobs a radar endorsement.I had to renewed it by getting 5 endorsements
from officials in charge of the stations. I did not like it when it was
converted to General Radio Telephone and life time.I got my ham license in 2011
as I could not do CW. I tried but always failed.
73Jim HK7SSS
In a message dated 4/29/2020 4:10:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about
6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way
before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as
a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think
it is a great change for us hams.
73,
-de John NI0K
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:45:26 -0700
From: EricJ <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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A google search brought up a number of websites with a history of ham
licensing. They all say exactly what I said. From Wikipedia:
"In the 1950s and 1960s, Novice, Technician and Conditional exams were
given by licensees acting as volunteer examiners."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_licensing_in_the_United_States
Volunteer examiners does not mean Volunteer Examiners (VE) as we've
known them since 1984. VE organizations are officially recognized by the
FCC. Before that, they were hams who volunteered to whoever asked to
administer the test, sign it, and mail it to the FCC. They were not part
of any officially recognized program as VE's are. They were just Joe Ham
whose friend, acquaintance or stranger asked them to give them the test.
The applicant sent away to the FCC for the test and gave it to Joe Ham
in a sealed envelope. I did the deed many times at K2USA when I was
stationed there in the 60's. I was just a guy with a General Class
license who volunteered to give them a code test and proctor a written test.
Eric KE6US
ex-K1DCK, WA6YCF, WB2PVW
On 4/29/2020 2:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s
to early '80s.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:52:59 -0700
From: Macy monkeys <[email protected]>
To: John Simmons <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late 60s. The
examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. IMHO, he was extra
tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was racing when that series of V's
came through those headphones!
John K7FD
On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:08 PM, John Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 6
months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way before
the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as a VE early on
in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think it is a great change
for us hams.
73,
-de John NI0K
Fred Jensen wrote on 4/29/2020 4:14 PM:
I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to early
'80s.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:23:05 -0400
From: "Brian Denley" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
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Test
Brian KB1VBF
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:22:59 -0700
From: Phil Kane <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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On 4/29/2020 4:46 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote:
I did not like it when it was converted to General Radio Telephone and life time
You weren't alone. I was one of the field supervisors whose opinion was
being considered by the committee that dealt on how to do the
transition, but the handwriting was on the wall. Ditto for the amateur
radio VE testing transition.
Blame me for suggesting the new name - it's the international name of
that license but few of the members recognized that.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:32:31 -0700
From: Phil Kane <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote:
I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late
60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann.
IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was
racing when that series of V's came through those headphones!
Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967.
By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but
the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices. When
he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for
his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being
closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in
1995. I have no idea what happened to him after that.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:15:39 -0700
From: kevinr <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Evening Net Report
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Good Evening,
?? Conditions were not too good for the inaugural evening event.
However, I was not skunked.
? On 7050.5 kHz at 0300z:
KL7CW - Rick - AK
He was much weaker than either of our last two contacts.? He was S9 on
20 meters and S7 on 40 meters.? Tonight he was around 559 with QSB from
3 to 6.? Not very much noise which is normally a bad sign.? Higher noise
usually means I am hearing a broader area of the country.
But nothing ventured nothing gained.? I started opening the net around
0255z and continued until 0309z.? I did not fail which is always a
plus.? Next week I'll try again and maybe the sun will cooperate.? There
were two old sunspots a few days back and new one forming today.? That
gives me hope that the sun won't remain blank forever.
?? Until next week stay well,
????? Kevin.? KD5ONS
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:44:25 -0400
From: Nr4c <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
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Will this ?Mystery? ever be solved?
Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill
On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Phil Kane <[email protected]> wrote:
?On 4/29/2020 4:46 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote:
I did not like it when it was converted to General Radio Telephone and life time
You weren't alone. I was one of the field supervisors whose opinion was
being considered by the committee that dealt on how to do the
transition, but the handwriting was on the wall. Ditto for the amateur
radio VE testing transition.
Blame me for suggesting the new name - it's the international name of
that license but few of the members recognized that.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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