bad engrish there.   it "will be" not "should be"    73

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:08 PM Christopher Hoover <c...@murgatroid.com> wrote:

> I think we're getting far off the topic of Elecraft ....
>
>
> The operating point for forced air cooling of a system should be the point
> where the fan curve intercepts the system resistance curve.
>
> The fan curve comes from the fan vendor.
>
> The system resistance is measured on a flow bench in the lab, or you can
> can use computational fluid dynamics.   But the lab work is ideal if you
> have the real thing or a decent mock up and  is < 1 days worth of work).
>
> The system resistance is not something you will typically have at hand
> though unless you are the designer.   Probably most amatuer designers never
> bother.  (It isn't very hard to make your own flow bench.)
>
>
>
> You typically want to arrange the airflow within the system to maximize dT
> between the hot things in the enclosure and the working fluid as the heat
> transferred is proportional to dT (q' = h.dT).     That's not always
> possible for a variety of reasons.   Things are in the wrong "order."
> Sometimes certain components need to be kept cooler  (e.g. camera sensor
> suffers from unacceptable noise with  Tj > 60C).
>
>
> For a given fan type, flow rate and pressure drop, there is a fan size
> that is maximally efficient and least noise.   A smaller or larger fan
> cannot be more efficient and hence less noise.    I know some are likely to
> argue about this.   I refer you to [Handbook of Acoustical Measurements and
> Noise Control, by C. Harris, 1991]  for details.     That said, you can't
> (without paying a chunk of NRE) order up an arbitrary size fan, so there is
> a compromise.
>
>
> Adaptive fan control is another matter ....
>
>
> 73 de Ai6KG
> -ch
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:12 AM Edward R Cole <kl...@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>
>> My comment NOT about Elecraft cooling design, but:
>>
>> I am finding a lot of amplifier designs place fans to exhaust heated
>> air with cool air being drawn into the heat sink by the partial
>> vacuum created by the fans.
>>
>> My 6m converted Harris ch.2 TV linear is set up this way (amp has
>> openings in the chassis to circuits on input side as well as the
>> final transistors).
>>
>> My W6PQL 1296 LDMOS 600w amp is cooled in the same fashion.
>>
>> Only departure is my W6PQL 2m-1500w linear that has four 2-inch
>> square fans blowing cool air into the heat sink.  But I augmented air
>> flow by adding a 4-inch exhaust fan on enclosure top cover.  The
>> intake fans were separated from the heat sink by a 2-inch gap which
>> bothered me,so added sheet metal fairings to channel air to the heat
>> sink.  Seems to work as heat sink temp remains topped out at 39c
>> running 1400w with JT65 (Overtemp trips off 50v supply at 55c).
>>
>> Even my old 2m-8877 with blower had a 7-inch radial exhaust fan to
>> reduce back pressure on the blower.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>    http://www.kl7uw.com
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>>    dubus...@gmail.com
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