1st- get my name right. 2nd- use a font I can read and 3rd- get your facts 
straight and lighten up. Take a pill.  

Sent from my iPad

> On May 1, 2020, at 8:30 PM, M. George <m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I sent this direct to you... that is pure BS Ray, be glad I didn't embarrass 
> you on the Elecraft list.  Can you even begin to demonstrate what you are 
> claiming? No... you make a bald ass assertion and nothing more. The hardware 
> is the same at the CPU and peripheral level in almost all cases.  iIt's no 
> more secure than the man in the moon.  And yeah, that is a bald ass assertion 
> too! :)
> 
> Max NG7M
> 
>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:27 PM W2xj <w...@w2xj.net> wrote:
>> Apple controls the hardware AND the software for a good reason. It just 
>> works. I can’t remember the last time anything crashed on my Mac. I am 
>> willing to spend money for top quality and I usually avoid hacks. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On May 1, 2020, at 7:51 PM, M. George <m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Ray, I'm sure you know this, but you are simply running each OS as a
>> > virtual machine using the Intel VT technology (not an Apple or Microsoft
>> > thing at all).  The reason you can't run the Mac OS on standard Intel PC
>> > hard ware is due to Apple's super irritating proprietary ROM etc...
>> > hardware signatures... trickery.  Apple goes to extreme lengths to ensure
>> > that their OS only will run on their hardware to lock you into buying their
>> > hardware to use their OS. Folks will hack and get older versions of the Mac
>> > OS working over time on non Apple PC hardware, but then a new Mac OS update
>> > comes out and it then breaks running their OS on non Mac / Apple hardware
>> > (constant cat and mouse game).  I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do
>> > that, but that's just what they do.  So yeah, you can run a Windows OS on
>> > your Mac hardware because #1, it's Intel based hardware and Apple finally
>> > adopted a standard intel based platform etc...years ago when they finally
>> > dumped the IBM Power PC cpu's and their terrible/horrible preemptive OS at
>> > the time (amen! it saved Apple!).  Jobs brought them back to the modern OS
>> > era by going down the Free BSD OS path, virtually saving them from
>> > bankruptcy. (not to mention Microsoft investing 100+ million in Apple back
>> > then to keep them alive)
>> > 
>> > So yeah, on your Mac / Apple PC hardware, if you can't live without the Mac
>> > OS and you are willing to pony up for the price of their hardware, you can
>> > still run the later versions of the Mac OS and also run virtual versions of
>> > Windows and or boot directly into Windows on your Mac hardware, because
>> > Microsoft doesn't lock their OS down to a specific manufactures Intel based
>> > PC hardware.  So don't thank Apple for running Windows on your Mac / Apple
>> > hardware, thank Microsoft for keeping their OS pretty much hardware
>> > independent and not forcing you to run their OS on one company's hardware!
>> > 
>> > Those of us that use Windows as their primary OS, do the same thing as
>> > you... you can virtualize and run multiple copies of Windows and other
>> > operating systems at the same time like Linux etc... we have been doing
>> > that for years of course and yes, we can run hacked versions of the Mac OS
>> > too if we want to continually fight Apple in their efforts to lock their
>> > Free BSD based OS release after release after rele
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> M. George
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