All I have asked is honest information. Sad that Elecraft fails to respond to 
customers, especially those who have placed advance deposits. 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 2:55 PM, David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Don't put words in my mouth ... I never said anything about lies or 
> deception.  And your post is exactly the kind of "status report" that is 
> useless to anyone who cares.
> 
> I'd bet money that most of what Elecraft has ordered has some sort of 
> projected delivery date, even if it is out many weeks.  In fact, I'd bet that 
> they demand it (even if speculative) from their suppliers.  And Elecraft must 
> have some idea how long it would take for them to restart assembly once they 
> get parts and supplies.  It seems like it would be possible to give a rough 
> K4 delivery guestimate based upon that information even it is was subject to 
> weekly or monthly change.  As it stands now, people like W4KX don't have a 
> clue whether they will get their K4 before the end of the year even if 
> California opens up in June.  That seems unreasonable to me for a $4,000 
> investment.
> 
> You can spin this any way you want, but like I said, it doesn't require hand 
> holding from anybody other than a clerk with access to Wayne or Eric to send 
> out an update with an actual time frame associated with it.
> 
> Dave  AB7E
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/15/2020 11:25 AM, Rick NK7I wrote:
>> Then here is your weekly status report:
>> 
>> They're working on improving the firmware (notes posted to the reflector a 
>> couple DAYS ago made note of this).
>> They're having (like much of the world) issues in getting hard dates for the 
>> bits and pieces to make more K4 (newsletter last month).
>> When released from house arrest, they will be back at the job awaiting the 
>> parts they've ordered so they can build more (newsletter).
>> When that is going to be, is anyone's guess for CA.  (Duh)
>> 
>> Repeat reading this weekly as needed, until there is a change. I'd rather 
>> they continue to make a quality product instead of hand holding.  I've gone 
>> through this a couple times for new Elecraft gear, it requires patience.
>> 
>> The rest of us understand this; it is the birthing pangs of a complex new 
>> product multiplied by the COVID19 situation.  There is no deception, no 
>> lying but file it under "S" because "Stuff" happens.  ;-P
>> 
>> Rick NK7I
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/15/2020 11:13 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> 
>>> All of that is true, except that it doesn't take somebody like Wayne or 
>>> Eric or any of their engineers to draft a weekly status report to those who 
>>> have put down a deposit.  Anybody who speaks with them regularly could do 
>>> it.  I haven't ordered a K4 and don't know if I ever will, but I'd be 
>>> pretty upset to have put down that much money for ANY item with this little 
>>> regular feedback on its shipping status since I can't think of a good 
>>> excuse for it.  From what I've seen, just about every status email from 
>>> Elecraft has talked about K4 feature issues instead of when it might 
>>> actually be delivered ... so no, I don't think that's being very 
>>> transparent.  A year is a very long time to have your money tied up, and 
>>> along with that comes some measure of responsibility to account for it.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/15/2020 10:08 AM, David Herring wrote:
>>>> A lot of us are in the same place you are, but Eric & Wayne have been 
>>>> transparent about how long this was going to take and why for the last 
>>>> year or so. Last I heard the K4 was to have been shipping by now, BUT 
>>>> that's kind of hard to do when one’s county and state have shut down one's 
>>>> manufacturing plant due to coronavirus. IMHO a bit beyond Eric & Wayne’s 
>>>> control at this point…
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 15, 2020, at 9:52 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It has been exactly 52 weeks since I placed an order for the K4, with a 
>>>>> full deposit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I truly understand all of the current difficulties, but would appreciate 
>>>>> a status report.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom W4KX
>>> 
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