Kim,
You're in better shape than Peter. You are operating in real salt water. You could easily put up a 23' marine HF antenna or use a Tarheel or almost anything else and you could use a Dynaplate ground, available at West Marine or Defenders. I used a backstay against a Dynaplate on Chesapeake Bay and in the Bahamas. Using sea water vice brackish water made a big difference.

The issue is you need an electrical 1/2 wave. The various whip type antenna are only 1/2 the needed antena. Thw orher half is represented in the ground. That is why have a good ground is so important or use a ground independent antenna like a dipole variant. See the note I just wrote to Peter that should be here on the reflector.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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From: "M. Bottles via Elecraft" <[email protected]>
To: "Peter Kaletsch" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 6/8/2020 5:47:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible

I am also very interested in answers to this question, please include me with 
suggestions if you email direct outside of the reflector. I have a 15.25 meter 
motorboat on salt water )Puget Sound.) Thank you, Kim - K7IM

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 On Jun 8, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Peter Kaletsch <[email protected]> wrote:

 Hello fellows;

 You are my last hope as I cannot imagine that I am the only one in the world 
who wants to try that.

 For many months I have been trying in vain to get tips on how to operate a K3 
well on a small 13 meter motor yacht. I am talking about fresh water usage 
(Lake Garda in Italy), not salt water, and of a GFK built boat.

 A dipole is eliminated, it is not a sailing boat. I thought of using a Tarheel 
Antenna, but the manufacturer advised me against it.

 So normal, shortened mobile antennas, mounted on the device carrier, where 
also the antenna for marine radio is located, should point the way ...?

 But how do I get a reasonably effective earth? I read a lot of negative things 
about ground plates - fast growth, the hull has to be pierced.

 I have already considered laying radials from the antenna base below deck in 
the invisible area, but will this work...?

 I am very grateful for every tip and every help - also to 
[email protected]

 Thanks in advance

 Peter - DL1MDZ


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