I am usingga Raspberry Pi on my network to monitor and control the KPA1500 
remotely. It also allows rotor control and AC power control turn turn various 
equipment on & off. This is accessible from any web browser, local or remote 
including smartphones. Definitely helps running remote.

In the shack I run it on my iPad. A picture of the dashboard can be seen at the 
link below.

It runs on a gui program,ing software on th e Pi called Node Red. We nave a 
groups.io group https://groups.io/g/nodered-hamradio
It is open to all hams and we have flows supporting various ancillary ham 
equipment.

I am currently writing a flow for the W2 wattmeter.

Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps KV5J can come up with an amplifier monitor for the KPA-1500, too?  
> Hope so!
> K4TM 
> 
> Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the 
> most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge 
> mountains of Virginia. 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 2:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>  1. Very pleased with KV5J Digital Display Unit for the    Elecraft
>>     KPA500 (Macy monkeys)
>>  2. Fwd: Re[2]:  K2 7747 VCO alignment problem (Keith Hamilton)
>>  3. Re: FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"
>>     (Robert Hand)
>>  4. Re: Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem (Dave Van Wallaghen)
>>  5. Re: "On second thought, I'll take the stairs." (Kurt Pawlikowski)
>>  6. Re: Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem (Keith Hamilton)
>>  7. K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output (John)
>>  8. Re: "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs (Doug Turnbull)
>>  9. Elecraft K2 CW key shaping (dl2ki)
>> 10. Re: Elecraft K2 CW key shaping (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP)
>> 11. Re: Elecraft K2 CW key shaping (Matt Maguire)
>> 12. Re: Elecraft K2 CW key shaping #chirp #click (Rich NE1EE)
>> 13. Re: K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output (David Herring)
>> 14. Re: [K3] Sub receiver intermittant failures (w4sc)
>> 15. Re: K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output (John)
>> 16. Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3 (Steef PA2A)
>> 17. Re: Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3 (Grant Youngman)
>> 18. Re: "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs (Jim Brown)
>> 19. Re: "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs (Tony Estep)
>> 20. Re: Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3 (Nr4c)
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:05:31 -0700
>> From: Macy monkeys <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Very pleased with KV5J Digital Display Unit for
>>   the    Elecraft KPA500
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> 
>> I just finished hooking up the remote KV5J DDU for my KPA500. It arrived 
>> today via USPS extremely well packed. Hook up was a snap. The unit does 
>> exactly what Keith says it does. And it looks terrific! The display is not 
>> too bright, not too dim. Perfect! It is very professional looking in a stout 
>> metal housing. Keith was quick to answer my emails. 
>> 
>> Very pleased! I have no connection to Keith or his products other than being 
>> a satisfied customer.
>> 
>> John K7FD
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Macy monkeys <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I purchased it exactly for those reasons; my KPA500 is on a shelf under my 
>>> operating desk. The DDU will enable me to see what I can't easily see now. 
>>> Perfect solution.
>>> 
>>> And yes, my DDU arrived today and I will soon give it a shakedown cruise...
>>> 
>>> John K7FD
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Keith Ennis via Elecraft 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Andy,
>>>> 
>>>> It's design was not to replace the KPA500 utility if that is what you want
>>>> to use.  It was designed to show the 5 most often used readings from the
>>>> front panel that can only be seen one at a time.
>>>> 
>>>> Plus it does not use any PC resources.  Monitor space is limited to most
>>>> operators.  Same with com ports.
>>>> 
>>>> Place the KPA500 wherever you want and place the DDU next to your radio.
>>>> Saves on heat, noise and desktop space.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your input.73
>>>> 
>>>> Keith,KV5J
>>>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:34:03 -0400
>> From: Keith Hamilton <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re[2]:  K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>> Message-ID:
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Keith Hamilton <[email protected]>
>> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>> To: Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> Yes the frequency changes when turning the VFO knob when measuring with CAL
>> FCTR on TP1.
>> 
>> I have checked the markings on C71, C72, C73, and C74 (C75 is not installed
>> yet). They are
>> all correct and I resoldered them to be sure.
>> 
>> I am beginning to think I might have a bad relay K13, K14 or K15. My good
>> bands are 80,40 and
>> 15 meters. My bad bands are 30,20,17,12 and 10 meters. Looking at the relay
>> table in appendix B
>> I am not sure which relay could be bad. How can I test them? Should I try
>> to replace them?
>> 73,
>> Keith N8CEP
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Keith, just to make sure things are where we want on the bands that
>>> seem to work, does the frequency change when turning the VFO knob when
>>> measuring with CAL FCTR on TP1? If they do, then things are working ok.
>>> 
>>> For the bands that are locked at 8.28v, that is the max output from the
>>> integrator circuit (U6B). This means that there is no lock between the PLL
>>> Oscillator and the VCO circuit and the PLL chip (U4) is trying to drive the
>>> varactors to provide more capacitance to the VCO circuit. The most likely
>>> cause will be a misplaced capacitor in the VCO range selector (C71 - C75)
>>> or a problem in the VCO circuit itself. But because this may be band
>>> dependent, I would look first in that range selection circuit. Verify that
>>> those caps are the proper values. They are easily misread and will cause
>>> the type of thing you are seeing.
>>> 
>>> Also verify those varactor diodes are the proper type and in the right
>>> places. Soldering issues are typically the leading cause of problems, so
>>> check that also. If all looks right to you, you may want to signal trace
>>> through that selection circuit to verify the proper relays and active for
>>> the bands not working. There is a relay table in Appendix B that shows you
>>> which relays are active for each band.
>>> 
>>> This is a brand new build, correct?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/13/2020 4:41:07 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help Dave!
>>> 
>>> Yes. I was able to get 6 volts on R30 by turning L30. At first the voltage
>>> was too high
>>> so I adjusted the turns on T5 by spreading the red windings further apart.
>>> Then I
>>> was able to get to 6 volts.
>>> 
>>> I did a CAL FCTR with the probe on TP1 and the frequency set to 4000,
>>> The reading is 8912.22
>>> 
>>> 73 Keith N8CEP
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>> 
>>>> Were you able to get 6v on R30 by tuning L30? Did you have to bring the
>>>> voltage down or up by moving the windings on T5?
>>>> 
>>>> If you would, set the VFO to 4 MHz and do a CAL FCTR on TP1 and let me
>>>> know what the reading is. I'm just looking for a couple of clues before
>>>> we proceed.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/13/2020 2:52:11 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am having trouble with the K2 VCO alignment. I have moved the T5
>>>> windings
>>>>> and obtained 6 volts at the left end of R30. I then went on to the chart
>>>>> (table 6-1) to measure the voltages at the listed frequencies. My
>>>> readings
>>>>> are ok on 80 40 and 15 meters (between 1.5 to 7.5 volts) but on 30,20,17
>>>>> ,12 and 10 meters the voltage is 8.29 volts and does not change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have checked the solder connections of T5 and the value of C72 (271).
>>>> The
>>>>> diodes D21,D22,D23, D24, D25 and D26 are correctly installed. I also went
>>>>> over the solder connections of K13, K14 and K15.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I'm stuck. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keioth Hamilton N8CEP
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:48:37 +0000
>> From: Robert Hand <[email protected]>
>> To: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
>>   "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The
>>   Stairs"
>> Message-ID:
>>   
>> <dm6pr06mb38209ea4adcd8f4b49f7cc15bb...@dm6pr06mb3820.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I still say, ?appliance operator ?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I didn't notice myself "denigrating" anything or "talking down" to anyone. 
>>> I explained why I like CW, even though other modes have their own 
>>> advantages.
>>> 
>>> Regarding "increasing knowledge" and "innovating," I suspect that 90% of 
>>> the guys pointing and clicking their way to DXCC with K1JT's code couldn't 
>>> explain how it works.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Victor, 4X6GP
>>> Rehovot, Israel
>>> Formerly K2VCO
>>> CWops no. 5
>>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>>> .
>>>>> On 13/07/2020 23:11, Jim Rhodes wrote:
>>>> Connecting to history and making history are not the same thing. Doing 
>>>> things the same way they were done a hundred years ago may make a 
>>>> "connection" for you. But hams are supposed to innovate,  invent and 
>>>> increase the knowledge. So you buy or build equipment with way more 
>>>> ability than to send simple CW, so you can do simple CW? Yes, CW is great 
>>>> stuff, but it sure isn't innovative, nor does in increase the knowledge of 
>>>> communication. As a group we should encourage others to explore new 
>>>> communications systems, not denigrate them as "not REAL HAM RADIO". Some 
>>>> of you people should be ashamed of yourselves for your attitudes. We do 
>>>> not want Amateur Radio to die with our generation, so we should encourage 
>>>> new folks to do new things, not talk down to them because they don't 
>>>> choose to spend 99% of their operating time pounding brass. They don't 
>>>> give you static about taking up bandwidth with your ancient operating 
>>>> mode, why hassle them because they can make Qs below the noise leve
>> l. Oh yes, my DXCC certificate says "Mixed" on it. I quit counting when I 
>> got that.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 03:25 Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>  Actually, I'm building a regenerative receiver now. I have to use JFETs
>>>>  because I got rid of all my tube stuff due to lack of room. But of
>>>>  course I will continue to benefit from the DSP in my K3, and its keyer
>>>>  (although I have a bug that I use once in a while).
>>>>  But those things don't take away the connection to history, they
>>>>  make it
>>>>  better. The point for me isn't to use the same gear as they did in
>>>>  1912,
>>>>  but to enter the Morse space as they did. If I can do it with equipment
>>>>  that is more stable and effective, so much the better.
>>>>  After all, a modern sailboat is very much more sophisticated than an
>>>>  old
>>>>  one, but sailing is still sailing.
>>>>  73,
>>>>  Victor, 4X6GP
>>>>  Rehovot, Israel
>>>>  Formerly K2VCO
>>>>  CWops no. 5
>>>>  http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 02:35:36 +0000
>> From: "Dave Van Wallaghen" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>> Message-ID: <em385dd5fe-747a-45c7-91aa-6be7eb9502cb@desktop-lqvflms>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>> I saw Don respond to this and he is right that K15 would be the common 
>> denominator if not for 15m. You can check to see if the coils are intact 
>> if you measure the resistance between pins 1 and 10 for each. It should 
>> be around 230 ohms or so. If you find one open or well away from that 
>> resistance, then it would indicate a bad coil on that relay.
>> 
>> You can also measure the intended path through the relays for each band 
>> and make sure there are no unintended paths. If you can read the 
>> schematic, it shows the path with each relay in it's reset state. You 
>> would need to consult the table in Appendix B to see which relay(s) are 
>> active for a respective band and you can then measure the continuity of 
>> the intended path. You should also check any unintended paths which 
>> could indicate a problem.
>> 
>> As Don stated, this is not a fun problem to find and will take some good 
>> debugging skills. So far, everything you've indicated seems to suggest 
>> the PLL oscillator and VCO circuits are working properly, but the range 
>> selection area is not producing the proper capacitance to allow the VCO 
>> to produce the proper frequency on those bands you indicated.
>> 
>> If reading the schematic is a problem, let us know and I am sure between 
>> Don and myself, we can give you some step by step instructions for 
>> tracing through this problem.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Dave W8FGU
>> 
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: 7/13/2020 9:34:03 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Keith Hamilton <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>>> To: Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Yes the frequency changes when turning the VFO knob when measuring with CAL
>>> FCTR on TP1.
>>> 
>>> I have checked the markings on C71, C72, C73, and C74 (C75 is not installed
>>> yet). They are
>>> all correct and I resoldered them to be sure.
>>> 
>>> I am beginning to think I might have a bad relay K13, K14 or K15. My good
>>> bands are 80,40 and
>>> 15 meters. My bad bands are 30,20,17,12 and 10 meters. Looking at the relay
>>> table in appendix B
>>> I am not sure which relay could be bad. How can I test them? Should I try
>>> to replace them?
>>> 73,
>>> Keith N8CEP
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok Keith, just to make sure things are where we want on the bands that
>>>> seem to work, does the frequency change when turning the VFO knob when
>>>> measuring with CAL FCTR on TP1? If they do, then things are working ok.
>>>> 
>>>> For the bands that are locked at 8.28v, that is the max output from the
>>>> integrator circuit (U6B). This means that there is no lock between the PLL
>>>> Oscillator and the VCO circuit and the PLL chip (U4) is trying to drive the
>>>> varactors to provide more capacitance to the VCO circuit. The most likely
>>>> cause will be a misplaced capacitor in the VCO range selector (C71 - C75)
>>>> or a problem in the VCO circuit itself. But because this may be band
>>>> dependent, I would look first in that range selection circuit. Verify that
>>>> those caps are the proper values. They are easily misread and will cause
>>>> the type of thing you are seeing.
>>>> 
>>>> Also verify those varactor diodes are the proper type and in the right
>>>> places. Soldering issues are typically the leading cause of problems, so
>>>> check that also. If all looks right to you, you may want to signal trace
>>>> through that selection circuit to verify the proper relays and active for
>>>> the bands not working. There is a relay table in Appendix B that shows you
>>>> which relays are active for each band.
>>>> 
>>>> This is a brand new build, correct?
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/13/2020 4:41:07 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your help Dave!
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. I was able to get 6 volts on R30 by turning L30. At first the voltage
>>>> was too high
>>>> so I adjusted the turns on T5 by spreading the red windings further apart.
>>>> Then I
>>>> was able to get to 6 volts.
>>>> 
>>>> I did a CAL FCTR with the probe on TP1 and the frequency set to 4000,
>>>> The reading is 8912.22
>>>> 
>>>> 73 Keith N8CEP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Were you able to get 6v on R30 by tuning L30? Did you have to bring the
>>>>> voltage down or up by moving the windings on T5?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you would, set the VFO to 4 MHz and do a CAL FCTR on TP1 and let me
>>>>> know what the reading is. I'm just looking for a couple of clues before
>>>>> we proceed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/13/2020 2:52:11 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am having trouble with the K2 VCO alignment. I have moved the T5
>>>>> windings
>>>>>> and obtained 6 volts at the left end of R30. I then went on to the chart
>>>>>> (table 6-1) to measure the voltages at the listed frequencies. My
>>>>> readings
>>>>>> are ok on 80 40 and 15 meters (between 1.5 to 7.5 volts) but on 30,20,17
>>>>>> ,12 and 10 meters the voltage is 8.29 volts and does not change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have checked the solder connections of T5 and the value of C72 (271).
>>>>> The
>>>>>> diodes D21,D22,D23, D24, D25 and D26 are correctly installed. I also went
>>>>>> over the solder connections of K13, K14 and K15.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now I'm stuck. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keioth Hamilton N8CEP
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:47:01 -0500
>> From: Kurt Pawlikowski <[email protected]>
>> To: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]>,    Elecraft Reflector
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> Wayne: Would you mind if I forwarded this to our ham newsletter editor 
>> for reprint? Thanks! k WB9FMC
>> 
>>>> On 7/12/2020 10:07 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> I have a friend about my age who got into amateur radio only a few years 
>>> ago. Like many of us, he was enthusiastic about the technology. Intrigued 
>>> with DX.
>>> 
>>> I showed him my station; we talked endlessly about gear. Later, I helped 
>>> him put up a simple wire antenna.
>>> 
>>> Then, when his license arrived, he dove straight into FT8 and didn't look 
>>> back. Within days, he'd worked all states, then DXCC. He'd bag a few rare 
>>> ones over a light lunch, then pat his laptop on the back and congratulate 
>>> his software app for its near-mythical ability to extract weak signals out 
>>> of noise.
>>> 
>>> Within weeks, he'd mastered everything there was to know about this 
>>> glorious new hobby.
>>> 
>>> Point. Click.
>>> 
>>> In this new world order, those of us who took the longer, slower path to 
>>> ionospheric enlightenment -- and who still occasionally enjoy making waves 
>>> by hand -- often fail to explain why.
>>> 
>>> I had failed to explain it to my friend. Even as hints of his boredom crept 
>>> in, creating an opening, the best argument I'd made for trying CW was that 
>>> he could do it without a computer. Coming in a weak second was the notion 
>>> that CW was the original digital mode. For obvious reasons, I didn't bother 
>>> with the classic argument about CW's signal-to-noise advantage over SSB.
>>> 
>>> I had all but given up.
>>> 
>>> Then, in a moment of delayed clarity, I decided on a different approach. I 
>>> invited him to a weekday brunch. A bit of an escape. He willingly took the 
>>> bait.
>>> 
>>> On the appointed day, arriving at his workplace, I bypassed the lobby's 
>>> glistening elevators and climbed the four flights of stairs to his office. 
>>> I insisted we take the stairs down, too.
>>> 
>>> "Why?" he asked. "And how'd you get up here so fast?"
>>> 
>>> I pointed out that I always chose stairs, when possible. That's why I 
>>> wasn't out of breath. We hustled down, jockeying for position, and emerged 
>>> on the ground floor invigorated by the effort.
>>> 
>>> "So, where are we going?" he asked. We'd been to every overrated 
>>> twenty-dollar burger venue at least twice.
>>> 
>>> I replied that we'd be going someplace we'd never tried. My kitchen.
>>> 
>>> When we arrived, I put him to work chopping onions and broccoli and 
>>> squeezing oranges while I whipped eggs into a froth and grated Swiss 
>>> cheese. We ate our omelettes outside, in full sun and a cool breeze.
>>> 
>>> "What's for desert?" he asked. "Isn't there a frozen yogurt place a 
>>> two-minute drive from here?"
>>> 
>>> I had something else in mind. Back in the kitchen, I handed him a water 
>>> bottle, then strapped on a small pack I'd prepared earlier.
>>> 
>>> We walked a mile or so through my neighborhood, admiring the houses' varied 
>>> architecture, ending up (as planned) at a local park festooned with 
>>> blackberry bushes. The most accessible branches had been picked clean, but 
>>> with teamwork and persistence we were able to gather several large handfuls 
>>> of fat, ripe berries, which we devoured on the spot.
>>> 
>>> We'd been poked and scratched but didn't care.
>>> 
>>> "Doesn't brunch usually end with champagne?" he wondered aloud, admiring 
>>> his wounds.
>>> 
>>> Not this time. I pulled out two bottles of craft beer that I'd obtained 
>>> from a neighbor in trade for repairing his ancient home stereo. Carlos had 
>>> spent years crafting an American pilsner to die for, sweating every detail, 
>>> including iconic, hand-painted labels.
>>> 
>>> My friend accepted the bottle, then tried in vain to remove the cap. Not a 
>>> twist-off.
>>> 
>>> "Opener?" he said.
>>> 
>>> I handed him a small pocket knife, an antique without specialty blades. He 
>>> soon discovered it could not be used to remove the cap directly. He looked 
>>> at me with a bemused expression, no doubt wondering what I had up my sleeve 
>>> this time.
>>> 
>>> I pointed out that we were surrounded by white oaks, a species known for 
>>> its hard wood. He got the message, smiled, and began hunting. Within 
>>> seconds he'd collected a small fallen branch. I watched as he used the 
>>> knife to fashion a few inches of it into a passable bottle opener. We 
>>> popped the caps, toasted his new-found skill, and traded stories of our 
>>> misspent youths.
>>> 
>>> "Oh, one more thing," I said.
>>> 
>>> I pulled a KX2 out of my pack, along with two lengths of wire. Of course he 
>>> knew everything there was to know about Elecraft, and me, so he wasn't 
>>> surprised when I also pulled out the rig's attachable keyer paddle. We 
>>> threw one wire in the closest tree and laid the other on the ground.
>>> 
>>> He didn't have to ask whether I'd brought a laptop.
>>> 
>>> We listened to CW signals up and down 20 meters, which was open to Europe 
>>> at the time. As he tuned in each station, I copied for him using pencil and 
>>> paper. He'd learned Morse code, but only at very slow speeds.
>>> 
>>> After making a contact, I set the internal keyer speed to 10 words per 
>>> minute and dialed power output to zero, for practice purposes, then showed 
>>> him how to use the paddle. He smiled as he got the hang of it. Sending the 
>>> full alphabet was a challenge, but he got there. The KX2 decoded and 
>>> displayed his keying, providing confirmation.
>>> 
>>> We'd blown through his allotted lunch break by a factor of three, so it was 
>>> time to go. We coiled up the antenna wires, packed up, and walked back. As 
>>> I drove him back to his employer, we made plans to get together again for a 
>>> weekend hike.
>>> 
>>> I could have just dropped him off, but we went back into the lobby 
>>> together. Out of habit, he stopped in front of the elevator. Then he looked 
>>> up.
>>> 
>>> "OK," he said. "I get it. This CW thing. It's slow, it's hard to do well, 
>>> and it takes years of practice."
>>> 
>>> "Like hunting for your own food, or carving your own tools," I added.
>>> 
>>> "Or cooking from scratch. Or brewing your own beer. Building your own 
>>> radio. And you use more of your senses. Not just your eyes, but your ears. 
>>> Your sense of touch."
>>> 
>>> I nodded. Listening. Feeling. That was the radio I'd grown up with.
>>> 
>>> "Of course it's harder to work DX with CW than with FT8," I reminded him, 
>>> playing devil's advocate.
>>> 
>>> "Is that what matters, though?" he asked.
>>> 
>>> A longer discussion for another day.
>>> 
>>> "Your call," I said.
>>> 
>>> He gripped my shoulder and smiled, then reached toward the elevator's 
>>> glowing, ivory colored button, framed by polished brass.
>>> 
>>> The path most taken.
>>> 
>>> Point. Click.
>>> 
>>> "On second thought," he said, "I'll take the stairs."
>>> 
>>> * * *
>>> 
>>> Wayne,
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:00:59 -0400
>> From: Keith Hamilton <[email protected]>
>> To: Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAJkuCUZmuY7Ys=ypJjjEK0wt7o5ocWzVCZQL=SZkPC7E=yo...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> OK Dave -
>> 
>> I will check the relays as you suggest. In troubleshooting capacitors I
>> messed up
>> C74. I pulled it off the board and sent a request to Elecraft for a
>> replacement.
>> That may solve the problem. In the meantime I will check the coils on the
>> K13 to K15
>> relays and let you know what I find.
>> 
>> I did not see Don's post. I will check it out. So I will be waiting a bit
>> to fix this problem,
>> 
>> 73 and thanks!
>> Keith N8CEP
>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:36 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keith,
>>> 
>>> I saw Don respond to this and he is right that K15 would be the common
>>> denominator if not for 15m. You can check to see if the coils are intact
>>> if you measure the resistance between pins 1 and 10 for each. It should
>>> be around 230 ohms or so. If you find one open or well away from that
>>> resistance, then it would indicate a bad coil on that relay.
>>> 
>>> You can also measure the intended path through the relays for each band
>>> and make sure there are no unintended paths. If you can read the
>>> schematic, it shows the path with each relay in it's reset state. You
>>> would need to consult the table in Appendix B to see which relay(s) are
>>> active for a respective band and you can then measure the continuity of
>>> the intended path. You should also check any unintended paths which
>>> could indicate a problem.
>>> 
>>> As Don stated, this is not a fun problem to find and will take some good
>>> debugging skills. So far, everything you've indicated seems to suggest
>>> the PLL oscillator and VCO circuits are working properly, but the range
>>> selection area is not producing the proper capacitance to allow the VCO
>>> to produce the proper frequency on those bands you indicated.
>>> 
>>> If reading the schematic is a problem, let us know and I am sure between
>>> Don and myself, we can give you some step by step instructions for
>>> tracing through this problem.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Dave W8FGU
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: 7/13/2020 9:34:03 PM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re[2]: K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Keith Hamilton <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] K2 7747 VCO alignment problem
>>>> To: Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> Yes the frequency changes when turning the VFO knob when measuring with
>>> CAL
>>>> FCTR on TP1.
>>>> 
>>>> I have checked the markings on C71, C72, C73, and C74 (C75 is not
>>> installed
>>>> yet). They are
>>>> all correct and I resoldered them to be sure.
>>>> 
>>>> I am beginning to think I might have a bad relay K13, K14 or K15. My good
>>>> bands are 80,40 and
>>>> 15 meters. My bad bands are 30,20,17,12 and 10 meters. Looking at the
>>> relay
>>>> table in appendix B
>>>> I am not sure which relay could be bad. How can I test them? Should I try
>>>> to replace them?
>>>> 73,
>>>> Keith N8CEP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Keith, just to make sure things are where we want on the bands that
>>>>> seem to work, does the frequency change when turning the VFO knob when
>>>>> measuring with CAL FCTR on TP1? If they do, then things are working ok.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the bands that are locked at 8.28v, that is the max output from the
>>>>> integrator circuit (U6B). This means that there is no lock between the
>>> PLL
>>>>> Oscillator and the VCO circuit and the PLL chip (U4) is trying to
>>> drive the
>>>>> varactors to provide more capacitance to the VCO circuit. The most
>>> likely
>>>>> cause will be a misplaced capacitor in the VCO range selector (C71 -
>>> C75)
>>>>> or a problem in the VCO circuit itself. But because this may be band
>>>>> dependent, I would look first in that range selection circuit. Verify
>>> that
>>>>> those caps are the proper values. They are easily misread and will
>>> cause
>>>>> the type of thing you are seeing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also verify those varactor diodes are the proper type and in the right
>>>>> places. Soldering issues are typically the leading cause of problems,
>>> so
>>>>> check that also. If all looks right to you, you may want to signal
>>> trace
>>>>> through that selection circuit to verify the proper relays and active
>>> for
>>>>> the bands not working. There is a relay table in Appendix B that shows
>>> you
>>>>> which relays are active for each band.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a brand new build, correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/13/2020 4:41:07 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your help Dave!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes. I was able to get 6 volts on R30 by turning L30. At first the
>>> voltage
>>>>> was too high
>>>>> so I adjusted the turns on T5 by spreading the red windings further
>>> apart.
>>>>> Then I
>>>>> was able to get to 6 volts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did a CAL FCTR with the probe on TP1 and the frequency set to 4000,
>>>>> The reading is 8912.22
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 Keith N8CEP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Dave Van Wallaghen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Were you able to get 6v on R30 by tuning L30? Did you have to bring
>>> the
>>>>>> voltage down or up by moving the windings on T5?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you would, set the VFO to 4 MHz and do a CAL FCTR on TP1 and let me
>>>>>> know what the reading is. I'm just looking for a couple of clues
>>> before
>>>>>> we proceed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Dave, W8FGU
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/13/2020 2:52:11 PM, "Keith Hamilton" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am having trouble with the K2 VCO alignment. I have moved the T5
>>>>>> windings
>>>>>>> and obtained 6 volts at the left end of R30. I then went on to the
>>> chart
>>>>>>> (table 6-1) to measure the voltages at the listed frequencies. My
>>>>>> readings
>>>>>>> are ok on 80 40 and 15 meters (between 1.5 to 7.5 volts) but on
>>> 30,20,17
>>>>>>> ,12 and 10 meters the voltage is 8.29 volts and does not change.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have checked the solder connections of T5 and the value of C72
>>> (271).
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> diodes D21,D22,D23, D24, D25 and D26 are correctly installed. I also
>>> went
>>>>>>> over the solder connections of K13, K14 and K15.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now I'm stuck. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keioth Hamilton N8CEP
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:52:20 -0700
>> From: John <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> 
>> When I dial up, or down rf output, it takes in excess of 30 seconds
>> 
>> to reach the output level, which is much lower than requested.
>> 
>> 3 "bars" on the rf meter.? That looks to be 20 to 25 watts.
>> 
>> If I readjust the level, up or down, it takes another 30+
>> 
>> seconds and it will not go over 3 "bars".
>> 
>> Anyone offer any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 73.
>> 
>> John.
>> 
>> ve7day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:26:00 -0000
>> From: "Doug Turnbull" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Dauer, Edward'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
>>   "'Victor Rosenthal    4X6GP'" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Dear Friends,
>>     Nor are SSB, RTTY and PSK the same as CW but they all serve a purpose.
>> Any technology which allows one to work weaker signals with lower power is
>> going to make DXCC easier.    Even using CW it is infinitely easier to work
>> DXCC on multiple bands these days than back in the fifties, well maybe I
>> will make an exception for the 1958 era.    There are so many aids and
>> radios are better.    This is a technological hobby and now the guy with the
>> apartment and balcony might actually work DXCC.   Viva engineering.
>>                             73 Doug EI2CN
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
>> Behalf Of Dauer, Edward
>> Sent: Monday 13 July 2020 15:39
>> To: [email protected]; Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs
>> 
>> I agree fully with Victor; though the difference may be even simpler:  
>> 
>> Making a QSO using CW is a ham doing something with a radio.  Making a QSO
>> with FT8 is a radio doing something for a ham.
>> 
>> Neither is better or worse; but they are different.
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 10:41:41 +0300
>> From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The
>>   Stairs"
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> For me, it's simple.
>> 
>> When I make a CW contact, even if its total content is "ENN TU", I am
>> connected to history, to Jack Phillips on the Titanic, to all of the
>> military traffic men and airborne radio operators of WWII, to the operators
>> on the merchant ships on the high seas and the Great Lakes, and to all the
>> hams of the past, even Mr. Marconi, the first ham.
>> 
>> I like hearing the propagation change with my own ears and struggling to
>> capture an ESP-level call. I like the feel of the key and the sound of the
>> code. I like the idea that there is another person like me at the other end
>> with his or her hand on a key.
>> 
>> I consider myself extremely lucky to have caught the bug at a young age and
>> developed the skill needed to make CW as transparent to me as my mother
>> tongue. I see how hard it is for those who begin to learn at middle age or
>> older. They shouldn't give up -- it's worth it.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Victor, 4X6GP
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> Formerly K2VCO
>> CWops no. 5
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/__;!!NCZxaNi9jForCP_SxB
>> KJCA!F4lkQrp7vnWsJyPT-T7iUPs1Sk1a79YI92FbY7WOC4FPuQvWxE1lsChUamJuUgiP$
>> .
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:29:41 -0700 (MST)
>> From: dl2ki <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 CW key shaping
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> since someone told me that there is a small "chirp" in my K2-CW signal, I
>> would like to check the signal visually.
>> 
>> How can I display the CW Key envelope as shown in the document "Elecraft K2
>> Keying Modification Instructions", page 1.
>> 
>> An oscilloscope "Tektronix 2465A" is at my disposal, but I have little
>> experience with measuring instruments, since I only use them occasionally.
>> 
>> Thank you and 73
>> Wolfgang
>> DL2KI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:00:04 +0300
>> From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 CW key shaping
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> A chirp can't be seen visually on an oscilloscope (well, maybe on a 
>> panadpter or spectrum analyzer if it is a very big one).
>> 
>> A chirp is a change in frequency of the transmitted signal. It is not 
>> the same as a click, which is a wide signal caused by too-short rise and 
>> fall times of the keyed envelope, or a badly shaped envelope. You can 
>> see the envelope shape on an oscilloscope. But the change in frequency 
>> caused by a chirp is very small in comparison with the frequency of the 
>> signal.
>> 
>> The way to detect a chirp is to listen to the transmitted signal on a 
>> second receiver. Your ear is very sensitive to changes in pitch.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Victor, 4X6GP
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> Formerly K2VCO
>> CWops no. 5
>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>> .
>>>> On 14/07/2020 9:29, dl2ki wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> since someone told me that there is a small "chirp" in my K2-CW signal, I
>>> would like to check the signal visually.
>>> 
>>> How can I display the CW Key envelope as shown in the document "Elecraft K2
>>> Keying Modification Instructions", page 1.
>>> 
>>> An oscilloscope "Tektronix 2465A" is at my disposal, but I have little
>>> experience with measuring instruments, since I only use them occasionally.
>>> 
>>> Thank you and 73
>>> Wolfgang
>>> DL2KI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:15:22 +1000
>> From: Matt Maguire <[email protected]>
>> To: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 CW key shaping
>> Message-ID:
>>   <cam9p-wdrcna5qhdzt5vmrg-ltt1tzah145sah-rvuk_cazi...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Generally a chirp would be due to an unstable power supply, resistance in
>> the fuse holder, etc.. It can also be cause by poor decoupling/loading of
>> the oscillator circuit, but in the case of a well-designed circuit like the
>> K2, this would normally  only arise with misplaced components or poor
>> connections.
>> 
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 18:01, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A chirp can't be seen visually on an oscilloscope (well, maybe on a
>>> panadpter or spectrum analyzer if it is a very big one).
>>> 
>>> A chirp is a change in frequency of the transmitted signal. It is not
>>> the same as a click, which is a wide signal caused by too-short rise and
>>> fall times of the keyed envelope, or a badly shaped envelope. You can
>>> see the envelope shape on an oscilloscope. But the change in frequency
>>> caused by a chirp is very small in comparison with the frequency of the
>>> signal.
>>> 
>>> The way to detect a chirp is to listen to the transmitted signal on a
>>> second receiver. Your ear is very sensitive to changes in pitch.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Victor, 4X6GP
>>> Rehovot, Israel
>>> Formerly K2VCO
>>> CWops no. 5
>>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>>> .
>>>> On 14/07/2020 9:29, dl2ki wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> since someone told me that there is a small "chirp" in my K2-CW signal, I
>>>> would like to check the signal visually.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I display the CW Key envelope as shown in the document "Elecraft
>>> K2
>>>> Keying Modification Instructions", page 1.
>>>> 
>>>> An oscilloscope "Tektronix 2465A" is at my disposal, but I have little
>>>> experience with measuring instruments, since I only use them
>>> occasionally.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you and 73
>>>> Wolfgang
>>>> DL2KI
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 08:45:02 -0400
>> From: Rich NE1EE <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 CW key shaping #chirp #click
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> I don't have any experience with chirps, but I can add this bit.
>> 
>> If you can hear the change, then the change can be seen on an FFT. At least 
>> that would give a sense of whether the shift is up or down, if it is 
>> difficult to tell by listening. An FFT could also be applied to the RF, but, 
>> as Victor mentioned, the shift is small wrt the TX freq. It is NOT small wrt 
>> the decoded audio, however, which is why it was reported. So an FFT may well 
>> find it. There are different ways to get that analysis, and might not be 
>> worth the effort. One method would be to use a modern scope with FFT; 
>> another, a software scope such as the Zeitnitz scope; another might be 
>> fldigi. In the last two cases, you'd have to pipe the audio...that is the RX 
>> decoded audio...into the audio line in on a computer.
>> 
>> But you still have to find out why...so maybe this FFT business isn't worth 
>> the effort...because you still then have to find the /cause/, even though 
>> you now have a pretty good idea where to look.
>> 
>>>> On 2020-07-14 18:15:+1000, you wrote:
>>> Generally a chirp would be due to an unstable power supply, resistance in
>>> the fuse holder, etc.. It can also be cause by poor decoupling/loading of
>>> the oscillator circuit, but in the case of a well-designed circuit like the
>>> K2, this would normally  only arise with misplaced components or poor
>>> connections.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 18:01, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A chirp can't be seen visually on an oscilloscope (well, maybe on a > 
>>>> panadpter or spectrum analyzer if it is a very big one).
>>>> 
>>>> A chirp is a change in frequency of the transmitted signal. It is not > 
>>>> the same as a click, which is a wide signal caused by too-short rise and > 
>>>> fall times of the keyed envelope, or a badly shaped envelope. You can > 
>>>> see the envelope shape on an oscilloscope. But the change in frequency > 
>>>> caused by a chirp is very small in comparison with the frequency of the > 
>>>> signal.
>>>> 
>>>> The way to detect a chirp is to listen to the transmitted signal on a > 
>>>> second receiver. Your ear is very sensitive to changes in pitch.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Victor, 4X6GP
>>>> Rehovot, Israel
>> 
>> 
>> ~R~
>> 72/73 de Rich NE1EE
>> On the banks of the Piscataqua
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:18:48 -0600
>> From: David Herring <[email protected]>
>> To: John <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Sounds like your audio level it set too low.
>> Try adjusting that up. Don?t quote me, but if memory serves that has to be 4 
>> bars with the 5th flickering.
>> A search through the archives will find that addressed many times. 
>> Audio too low makes the K3 ?power hunt? which is what it sounds like yours 
>> is doing.
>> 
>> 73,
>> David - N5DCH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:52 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I dial up, or down rf output, it takes in excess of 30 seconds
>>> 
>>> to reach the output level, which is much lower than requested.
>>> 
>>> 3 "bars" on the rf meter.  That looks to be 20 to 25 watts.
>>> 
>>> If I readjust the level, up or down, it takes another 30+
>>> 
>>> seconds and it will not go over 3 "bars".
>>> 
>>> Anyone offer any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 73.
>>> 
>>> John.
>>> 
>>> ve7day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:14:18 -0400
>> From: w4sc <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
>>   "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub receiver intermittant failures
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>> If you have KSYN3A synthesizers installed, check for the following mod.
>> 
>> Ref:  KSYN3A Synthesized Installation Instructions    pp 5
>> 
>> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740257%20KSYN3A%20Installation%20Rev%20A6.pdf
>> 
>> KREF3 Output Level Modification
>> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/E740278%20KREF3%20Output%20Level%20Modification.pdf
>> 
>> Ben  W4SC
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:55:42 -0700
>> From: John <[email protected]>
>> To: David Herring <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 very slow to reach dialed rf output
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> Thanks to all who had suggestions.
>> 
>> Windows had made an update and changed audio settings.
>> 
>> Problem solved.
>> 
>> 73.
>> 
>> John.
>> 
>> ve7day.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 14/07/2020 6:18 a.m., David Herring wrote:
>>> Sounds like your audio level it set too low.
>>> Try adjusting that up. Don?t quote me, but if memory serves that has to be 
>>> 4 bars with the 5th flickering.
>>> A search through the archives will find that addressed many times.
>>> Audio too low makes the K3 ?power hunt? which is what it sounds like yours 
>>> is doing.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> David - N5DCH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:52 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When I dial up, or down rf output, it takes in excess of 30 seconds
>>>> 
>>>> to reach the output level, which is much lower than requested.
>>>> 
>>>> 3 "bars" on the rf meter.  That looks to be 20 to 25 watts.
>>>> 
>>>> If I readjust the level, up or down, it takes another 30+
>>>> 
>>>> seconds and it will not go over 3 "bars".
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone offer any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 73.
>>>> 
>>>> John.
>>>> 
>>>> ve7day.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:23:44 +0200
>> From: Steef PA2A <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> has anyone already changed the CR2032 backup battery in a K3? Under the 
>> carton cover the battery has started to oxydize but the Voltage is still 
>> 3.06 Volts after twelve years. I guess an external 3 Volts source should 
>> be applied to save all settings during the replacement.
>> 
>> 73s Steef PA2A, K3 #1184
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:39:39 -0400
>> From: Grant Youngman <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: Elecraft Refl <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> 
>> The battery supports the real time clock only.  You won?t lose any other 
>> settings if you replace it.
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Steef PA2A <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> has anyone already changed the CR2032 backup battery in a K3? Under the 
>>> carton cover the battery has started to oxydize but the Voltage is still 
>>> 3.06 Volts after twelve years. I guess an external 3 Volts source should be 
>>> applied to save all settings during the replacement.
>>> 
>>> 73s Steef PA2A, K3 #1184
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:27:06 -0700
>> From: Jim Brown <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs
>> Message-ID:
>>   <[email protected]>
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>> 
>>>> On 7/13/2020 11:26 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>>> Even using CW it is infinitely easier to work
>>> DXCC on multiple bands these days than back in the fifties, well maybe I
>>> will make an exception for the 1958 era.
>> 
>> Except that noise levels have escalated by 20 dB since that era.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:53:08 -0500
>> From: Tony Estep <[email protected]>
>> To: Elecraft <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CACHwrmM3o3dCL=iaxpu98sfe_yr8c7vkazgkdk6k+-rpwk8...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...Even using CW it is infinitely easier to work
>>> DXCC on multiple bands these days than back in the fifties, well maybe I
>>> will make an exception for the 1958 era....
>>> 
>> =================
>> Ha ha, yep. I worked DXCC as a Novice in 1957-58, all on 15 CW. It's true
>> that signals were popping in from all over the world at the time. But the
>> level and type of activity were completely different, of course. I worked
>> many countries still deemed to be rare via QSOs with local hams (e.g.
>> Johnston Island) or visiting scientists (e.g. Amsterdam Island), but only a
>> couple via DXpeditions (e.g. Navassa). Often you'd have an exchange of name
>> and qth, even with rare DX when others were waiting. You found DX by tuning
>> and listening, and most QSLing was via direct mail. A different world.
>> Now with clusters and micro-QSOs (5nn tu) you can knock off DXCC within 24
>> hours during a contest. Which is more fun? I dunno. Either way, hearing
>> your call come back from the other edge of the world can give a little jolt
>> of adrenaline, no matter how many times you've done it. I don't get any
>> jolt seeing my call on the FT8 scroll.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Tony KT0NY
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:26:36 -0400
>> From: Nr4c <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Replace backup battery CR2032 in a K3
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Don?t get too excited. I?m told it only keeps the clock running. All 
>> settings are in non-volatile  memory. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Steef PA2A <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi,
>>> 
>>> has anyone already changed the CR2032 backup battery in a K3? Under the 
>>> carton cover the battery has started to oxydize but the Voltage is still 
>>> 3.06 Volts after twelve years. I guess an external 3 Volts source should be 
>>> applied to save all settings during the replacement.
>>> 
>>> 73s Steef PA2A, K3 #1184
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