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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Joseph Shuman)
2. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Clay Autery)
3. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Harry Yingst)
4. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Fred Jensen)
5. KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (eric norris)
6. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Wes)
7. Re: Elecraft Accessories ([email protected])
8. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Alan - G4GNX)
9. Re: K4 Status Update (VE3GNO Daniel)
10. Re: KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Michael Walker)
11. Re: KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Eric Norris)
12. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Clay Autery)
13. Re: KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Harry Yingst)
14. KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Andy Durbin)
15. Re: KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Adrian)
16. Re: KPA500 Bypass Power Limit? (Jim Brown)
17. K3S Birdy on 28MHz (Conrad PA5Y)
18. Re: K3S Birdy on 28MHz (Conrad PA5Y)
19. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (Art Peters)
20. KX3 sideband cancellation calibration (Steve Zabarnick)
21. KX3 firmware issue? (Dave B)
22. Re: Genius vs. Stupidity (E.H. Russell)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:28:17 -0500
From: Joseph Shuman <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Something like the following was attributed to Albert:
?There is a question that makes me hazy,
Is it you, or I, that is crazy?
I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke
with Einstein. My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who
was crazy. Never told me who, though. . .
Keeping Watch-
shu
Joe Shuman, NZ8P
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:10:13 -0600
From: Clay Autery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!"? - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory? <big smile>
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 12/25/20 17:28, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
Something like the following was attributed to Albert:
?There is a question that makes me hazy,
Is it you, or I, that is crazy?
I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke
with Einstein. My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who
was crazy. Never told me who, though. . .
Keeping Watch-
shu
Joe Shuman, NZ8P
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 00:21:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: Harry Yingst <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Clay
Autery <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
It all depends on where you are on the curve.
On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery
<[email protected]> wrote:
MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!"? - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory? <big smile>
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 12/25/20 17:28, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
Something like the following was attributed to Albert:
?There is a question that makes me hazy,
Is it you, or I, that is crazy?
I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke
with Einstein.? My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who
was crazy.? Never told me who, though. . .
Keeping Watch-
shu
Joe Shuman, NZ8P
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:57:46 -0800
From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
It all depends on where you are on the curve.
On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery
<[email protected]> wrote:
MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!"? - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory? <big smile>
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 00:59:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: eric norris <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS, or turned off??
That is, using exciter power only?
Thanks!
73, Eric WD6DBM
?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:17:29 -0700
From: Wes <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.
Wes? N7WS
On 12/25/2020 5:57 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
? It all depends on where you are on the curve.
???? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery
<[email protected]> wrote:
? ? MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!"? - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory? <big smile>
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:20:39 -0500
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Accessories
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The MH2 mic is sold!
Tnx,
Jim - WS6X
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 01:28:52 +0000
From: "Alan - G4GNX" <[email protected]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <em9dda9673-d2d0-47a1-ada5-cef369bf6a84@g4gnx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Oh God, please don't let us degenerate to this on a Ham Radio group.
73,
Alan. G4GNX
------ Original Message ------
From: "Wes" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 26/12/2020 01:17:29
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.
Wes N7WS
On 12/25/2020 5:57 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Actually, it all depends on who gets to draw the curve
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 12/25/2020 4:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
It all depends on where you are on the curve.
On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:11:43 PM EST, Clay Autery
<[email protected]> wrote:
MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks
falling higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have
had any number of encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or
the actual words from the person with whom I was interacting clearly
communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang
Theory <big smile>
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 02:11:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: VE3GNO Daniel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], Wayne Burdick <[email protected]>, Charlie
Delta <[email protected]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Status Update
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Wayne
Any plans to upgrade to?Gatesgarth??
73 de ve3gno Daniel
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 14:40, Wayne Burdick<[email protected]> wrote: Dunfell.
Wayne
N6KR
On Dec 22, 2020, at 1:14 AM, Charlie Delta via Elecraft
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Eric
What distribution of embedded Linux is used in the K4, I am curious?
73CraigVK3OD
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:26:48 -0500
From: Michael Walker <[email protected]>
To: eric norris <[email protected]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
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Hi Eric
A 100 watts works without issue.
What sort of power did you have in mind?
Mike
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 8:01 PM eric norris via Elecraft <
[email protected]> wrote:
How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS, or turned
off? That is, using exciter power only?
Thanks!
73, Eric WD6DBM
?
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:56:47 -0800
From: Eric Norris <[email protected]>
To: Michael Walker <[email protected]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>, eric norris
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
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200-250w if it's safe.
73 Eric WD6DBM
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 6:28 PM Michael Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Eric
A 100 watts works without issue.
What sort of power did you have in mind?
Mike
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 8:01 PM eric norris via Elecraft <
[email protected]> wrote:
How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS, or turned
off? That is, using exciter power only?
Thanks!
73, Eric WD6DBM
?
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:59:20 -0600
From: Clay Autery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
LOL!!!
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(318) 518-1389
On 12/25/20 19:17, Wes wrote:
If you were woke, you'd know that the bell curve is racist.
Wes? N7WS
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 03:09:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Harry Yingst <[email protected]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>, eric norris
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
as per the manual
"You may run up to 100 watts through the KPA500 in STBY."
On Friday, December 25, 2020, 08:01:49 PM EST, eric norris via Elecraft
<[email protected]> wrote:
How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS, or turned off?? That is, using exciter power only?
Thanks!
73, Eric WD6DBM
?
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 03:12:41 +0000
From: Andy Durbin <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
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"How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS"
KPA500 has no "BYPASS" mode.? It is either Off, On in STBY, or On in OPER.
The? KPA500 Owner's Manual says - "Transmitting - The POWER (W) and standing wave
ratio (SWR) bargraphs are functional when the amplifier is in standby (STBY). Twenty-five
watts from the driving transceiver will illuminate the first POWER LED. You may run up to
200 watts through the KPA500 in STBY."
The answer to your question would appear to be "200 W".
73,
Andy k3wyc
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:28:02 +1000
From: Adrian <[email protected]>
To: Andy Durbin <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
There was no question regarding if the amp had a bypass 'mode' It was as
you quoted;
"How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS"
So in 'standby' mode the amp is 'in bypass' as its input is connected to its
output.
So it seems an unnecessary invalid initial answer to a question that did not
exist regarding bypass mode.
However ;
"You may run up to 200 watts through the KPA500 in STBY." was on the money.
On 26/12/20 1:12 pm, Andy Durbin wrote:
"How much power can I run through a KPA500 that is in BYPASS"
KPA500 has no "BYPASS" mode.? It is either Off, On in STBY, or On in OPER.
The? KPA500 Owner's Manual says - "Transmitting - The POWER (W) and standing wave
ratio (SWR) bargraphs are functional when the amplifier is in standby (STBY). Twenty-five
watts from the driving transceiver will illuminate the first POWER LED. You may run up to
200 watts through the KPA500 in STBY."
The answer to your question would appear to be "200 W".
73,
Andy k3wyc
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 23:54:37 -0800
From: Jim Brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Bypass Power Limit?
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
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On 12/25/2020 7:12 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:
KPA500 has no "BYPASS" mode.? It is either Off, On in STBY, or On in OPER.
Picky, picky, picky. :) When all of the power amps I'm aware of are in a
mode usually called "Standby," meaning that they are powered up and
ready to transmit, but are Bypassed. they are Bypassed. They are also
Bypassed when turned off. And when tube amps are prevented from
transmitting when their filaments are warming up, they are Bypassed.
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:19:25 +0000
From: Conrad PA5Y <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Birdy on 28MHz
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi all, I just discovered a birdy in a very awkward place on 28.360MHz. I use
the K3S with a transverter for 144MHz and 144.360 is quite awkward as it is the
centre of activity for MSK144 MS in Europe. The birdy is not really loud and is
not coming from anything external. Is this a known birdy? Is there anything I
can do to get rid of or move it?
Season's Greetings
Conrad PA5Y
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:44:59 +0000
From: Conrad PA5Y <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Birdy on 28MHz
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks to G4ZTR I found "SIG RMV" in the Config Menu. It worked a treat. What
exactly does this do. I noticed that the passband changed but I was able to restore it by
changing the centre frequency. It worked great!
Many thanks John.
73
Conrad PA5Y
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 07:10:21 -0500
From: Art Peters <[email protected]>
To: Clay Autery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Clay,
On the other end of the spectrum a friend of mine who used to manage a fuel
terminal is fond of saying:
?You can?t fix stupid.... just every now and then you can manage it...?
73 es God Bless,
Art / K0ACP
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 25, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Clay Autery <[email protected]> wrote:
?MANY higher-intelligence folks APPEAR to be "insane" to other folks falling
higher up on the bell curve.
I am in no way anywhere nearly as intelligent as the Professor, but have had any number of
encounters in my 57 years where either the "look" or the actual words from the person
with whom I was interacting clearly communicated that they thought I was "insane".
"I'm not crazy; my mother had me tested!" - Sheldon Cooper, Big Bang Theory <big
smile>
______________________
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(318) 518-1389
On 12/25/20 17:28, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
Something like the following was attributed to Albert:
?There is a question that makes me hazy,
Is it you, or I, that is crazy?
I worked at a DOE research lab many years ago for someone who met and spoke
with Einstein. My boss asserted that, after talking to Einstein, he knew who
was crazy. Never told me who, though. . .
Keeping Watch-
shu
Joe Shuman, NZ8P
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:44:57 -0500
From: Steve Zabarnick <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 sideband cancellation calibration
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I recently noticed that I could hear the opposite sideband on my KX3. As a
result I tried using my XG1 to do the sideband cancellation calibration
described in the KXFL3 manual. During the calibration I could significantly
reduce the sideband so that it could no longer be heard by ear. But, once I
left calibration mode, I could still hear the opposite sideband from the
XG1. I did restart the KX3 to save these settings and confirmed that the
phase and amplitude settings were saved per filter. Any suggestions?
Steve N9SZ
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:34:47 +0000
From: Dave B <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 firmware issue?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi.
I'm seeing strangeness between the command values used to set the AF
Gain, and what is returned when you query it, even using the KX3 utility
software (v1.2.12.21)
The front panel control range is 0 to 60.? The values returned when
querying the radio follow that just fine as you query it while twiddling
that knob.
But... Sending the command AG060; does not result in maximum AF Gain.?
For that, it needs AG100; sent to the radio.
If you send AG060; (or AG60;) then the "volume" is about 50% of maximum
(by ear.)? Poll the radio with AG; and it returns AG060;
But, if you gently turn the AF Gain control counter-clockwise, the front
panel volume setting shows AF 59, but the volume (by ear) goes UP.?
Turning the control clockwise, will also bring the volume up, but the
value stays at 60.
If you send AG100; to get maximum volume, and then send (for example)
AG070; to reduce it, it does reduce.? But, if you query the radio with
AG;? It returns AG060;
As before, all of the above is when using the KX3utility, to send and
receive commands and parameters between PC and radio.
PC's OS is LinuxMint 19.3 64 bit all up-to-date.? Also using a genuine
KXUSB cable, FTDI chipset version.
My KX3 MCU firmware is Rev 02.95 and DSP firmware is 01.52
MCU or DSP Firmware issues?
I Initially found this, when investigating to "adjust" Flrig to work
correctly with the KX3, using the radio's native parameter values.?
Currently it seems to use K3 remote command values for most things.
As anyone who has messed with the remote control of these radios will
know, a KX3 is very different in detail, to the K3 in many command
parameters.
Seasons Greetings etc.
73.
Dave G8KBV
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:05:26 -0500
From: "E.H. Russell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
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Haha!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Ken K6MR
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 11:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
Einstein had a whole bunch of great quotes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
Ken K6MR
From: Phil Kane<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 19:57
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genius vs. Stupidity
On 12/23/2020 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I really like that quote from Albert Einstein.
Ignorance can be cured with information, but stupidity lives on in its
dismissal of facts and information.
My favorite quote from Einstein that he never said is:
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results."
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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