They did communicate and recently. Did you miss that? I also cracked up at the word investor. Customer and investor are worlds apart.
Are you an actual stake holder in this conversation? I am. I paid in advance for my K4. I don’t feel like I need anymore communications than I have already received. Nor do I feel like rehashing this over and over or having non stake holders popping off randomly will make any difference. Did I miss something? Regards -Hal > On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:15 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com> wrote: > > The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us these > things like they used to? > > I hear lots of excuses. Sure there are supply line problems for everyone. > HRO still has lots of product. Elecraft has a big competitor in FLEX are > they having similar issues? I hear that some big box radios have some wait > times but not in the years category. > > K4 investor? You have not invested in the company you are a customer unless > I missed the profit sharing version of the K4. > > Most people have given them lots of slack. Why is communicating with people > that have fronted you lots of money to make this radio possible so difficult. > I don't get it. > > I don't have a K4 on order either but if I did I might be concerned. > > W0MU > > On 3/31/2021 10:13 AM, David Herring wrote: >> Further to this excellent post, Eric did say that, at that point in time, >> his expectation was that the group A backlog would be cleared by end of May. >> I didn’t go back through the video to find it, but I was watching one of >> his presentations live and did hear that. >> >> Another thing that Wayne mentioned in one of the meeting rooms was that at >> one point Elecraft had to go back and re-design a portion of the K4 because >> tariffs levied on certain parts from certain countries would have rendered >> the project unaffordable. >> >> What’s more, and I don’t recall which of them said it, but Elecraft >> apparently had to deal with retirements of certain important people in the >> process. >> >> Ordinarily I’d never wait 2+ years for delivery of a product I’d ordered, >> perhaps many of us wouldn’t, but… >> >> Tariffs, Retirements, The Pandemic, Employees Down With COVID, Wild Fires >> (and employee loss of property), Vendor Delays… >> >> None of that was under Elecraft’s control. Not much of that could have been >> foreseen. “Stuff” happens. >> >> That is why, I imagine, most of us K4 investors are just patiently waiting. >> Content to give them the space they need to press on with addressing the >> issues as they come and moving forward. >> >> 73, >> David - N5DCH >> >> >> >>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Kimo Chun <kimoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Presentation from the Expo. >>> Elecraft K4 High Performance Direct-Sampling SDR Transceiver, Eric Swartz >>> WA6HHQ <https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/player.html?link=NTI4MjQzNTQ1> >>> >>> Perhaps more recent announcements by Elecraft have superseded this. >>> I realize others have already mentioned some of this. But I thought I'd go >>> back (for the 3rd time) to try to itemize some of Eric's statements. Note: >>> I don't take dictation and didn't spend a lot of time replaying it over and >>> over to get everything verbatim. Nor replaying the whole thing. >>> These are my interpretations and words. Please pardon any omissions or >>> errors. Go listen for yourself. The delivery time frames are based on the >>> Expo date: March 13, 2021. >>> >>> Check minutes 17:00 to about 20:00 and around 1:22:00 on. There are other >>> segments. >>> -He discusses the supply problems they had due to COVID and how they have >>> now amassed an inventory of the long lead time items in the last 3 to 4 >>> weeks. A local chassis supplier was one of the most recent hang ups. Plus >>> parts stuck in shipments the COVID-restricted Longshoremen haven't handled >>> yet. They are now smoothing things out and production will be ramping up. >>> >>> Kit versions are at least 4 to 5 months out. >>> -They are still learning and modifying production techniques which will >>> make it easier to build. Then how-to documentation must be updated. >>> -The first day orders 16th (2019?) at Dayton, may be fulfilled soon. >>> -The second day orders 17th will be 3 to 4 weeks or longer after Group A is >>> done. >>> -Group B is even larger than Group A. >>> -Orders kept coming in all summer after Dayton and have dropped to a >>> consistent medium rate. Some spikes like when it was announced they started >>> shipping. >>> -When asked, "If I were to order a K4 right now, how long would I have to >>> wait?", he answered, "Over 3 to 4 months". >>> - I asked the very last question - When will the K4HD be finalized? He >>> said, "Conservatively... by the end of the year". So production comes >>> sometime thereafter. Plug in upgrades to the K4D, presumably, first for >>> those who ordered K4HD but took the K4D first. >>> - Testimonials from K4 owners would be found on the Elecraft-K4 GroupsIO >>> list. >>> >>> Side bar: somewhere else in the presentation he said Group A >>> will, hopefully, be completed in the next month or so (did I get this >>> right? I didn't find that section). Group B (even larger) comes after that. >>> I haven't re-checked the definition of Group A and B sorry. >>> >>> I hope this helps some of you with delivery anxiety. >>> 73, >>> Kimo KH7U >>> (Happy with my almost new K3S s/n 11727, so the K4 is but a dream down the >>> road. 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