What happened to the K4 “ Owner s manual” mentioned frequently in the op manual.?
Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2021, at 2:09 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Funny K4 Story (Bill Frantz) > 2. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr) > 3. New: K4 software information page (Wayne Burdick) > 4. K4 Operating Manual rev. C1 now available (Wayne Burdick) > 5. K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. Elecraft-K4 at > groups.io (Wayne Burdick) > 6. Got cable? (Christopher A Kantarjiev) > 7. Re: K3s Windows sound problem in Windoze (W8JH) > 8. Re: K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. Elecraft-K4 at > groups.io (Alan - G4GNX) > 9. Re: K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. Elecraft-K4 at > groups.io [Clarification] (Wayne Burdick) > 10. Re: Funny K4 Story (Tom Azlin W7SUA) > 11. Re: Trade: KX1, with extras, for W2 Wattmeter with extras > (Dave Cole) > 12. XG2 Manual (eric norris) > 13. Re: XG2 Manual (Wes) > 14. Re: XG2 Manual (Dick Dievendorff) > 15. Re: Funny K4 Story (Jim Rhodes) > 16. Re: Funny K4 Story (Tom Azlin W7SUA) > 17. Re: XG2 Manual (Wes) > 18. K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters (Randy) > 19. K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters (Paul Kirley) > 20. Re: K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters (Randy) > 21. Re: Funny K4 Story (Jim Rhodes) > 22. [K4] First Impressions of K4 SN122 (LONG!) (Rick Miller - N1RM) > 23. XG1 crystal? (Frank Krozel) > 24. Re: [K4] First Impressions of K4 SN122 (LONG!) (Wayne Burdick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 22:06:40 -0400 > From: Bill Frantz <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Funny K4 Story > Message-ID: > <r480Ps-10146i-620F2E15AA7E4306983A452509F258D0@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >> On 5/16/21 at 7:40 PM, [email protected] (Alan Bloom) wrote: >> >> I believe the SWR meter in the transceiver is at the input of >> the internal tuner, not the output.? Since it always reads >> close to 1:1 when the tuner is engaged you may not notice if >> the antenna has a high SWR. > > On the assumption that the K4 antenna tuner has similar > capabilities to the one in the K3/K3S, it can tune anything. An > antenna lying on the ground is child's play for these tuners. > Tom said that he hooked up his spiffy new K4 and tuned the > antenna. No wonder he didn't see a bad SWR. :-) > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Security is like Government | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | services. The market doesn't | 150 > Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | want to pay for them. | > Peterborough, NH 03458 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 21:11:46 -0700 > From: kevinr <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Good Evening, > > ? Conditions approached poor from worse.? However, I was able to work a > few of you, especially on 20 meters.? Forty meters seemed barren.? RBN > did report my signal in Central Canada.? Thankfully, propagation reports > mirror my own.? One of these days propagation has to improve, it can't > get much worse. > > ?? Spring weather reports were mild except for California where coastal > storms kept things cool and wet.? Here warm weather brings hatch after > hatch of biting flies.? I can gauge insect population by watching the > hummingbird feeder.? When there are few insects it's level drops much > faster. > > > ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: > > K0DTJ - Brian - CA > > K6XK - Roy - IA > > KL7CW - Rick - AK > > K4JPN - Steve - GA > > AB9V - Mike - IN > > > ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z: > > K0DTJ - Brian - CA > > WM5F - Dwight - ID > > > ?? Until next week 73, > > ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > - > > > Each player gets six cards, except for the player on the dealer's right, > who gets seven, except on Thursdays when they get five. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 07:54:58 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] New: K4 software information page > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > K4 software update is handled entirely at the radio itself. You can view the > release notes there, too. > > You can now also see the release notes for the current production release on > our K4 software page. > > Visit www.elecraft.com, then click on SUPPORT / SOFTWARE, and select K-Line / > K4. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 09:10:37 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Operating Manual rev. C1 now available > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Revision C1 of the K4 operating manual can be found online at this link: > > https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/K4%20Built-In%20Operating%20Manual%20rev%20C1/K4BuiltInOperatingManualrevC1.html > > We?ll be updating the built-in manual (in the radio itself) in a future > software release. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 09:49:16 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. > Elecraft-K4 at groups.io > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The number of postings we're making about K4 operation, etc., has jumped of > late. This is due to the increase in shipping rate. > > I find that it's not practical to double-post everything to both the > Elecraft-K4 list and to the main Elecraft forum. So I'll be following these > rules: > > - Major announcements (including this one :) will go to both. This includes: > > - documentation and software updates > - K4-related product announcements > - issue alerts (operational or hardware) > - technical topics of broad interest > > - Day-to-day discussion supporting K4 user questions will go only to the > Elecraft-K4 list. > > I've resisted any sort of list bifurcation in the past, but I believe it's > called for in this case. Regular forum readers won't have to wade through so > many narrowly focussed K4 threads, and Elecraft-K4 readers can be assured > that no official Elecraft postings will be omitted from that list. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 10:00:32 -0700 > From: Christopher A Kantarjiev <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] Got cable? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I'm cleaning out the garage; these will go out with the recycling this > week if nobody wants them: > > Spool of CAT-5, about 100' yellow > Spool of CAT-5, about 100' blue > LMR-400 assembly, about 50', terminated with TNC males > LMR-400 assembly, about 50', terminated with TNC male and N male > > All in Palo Alto. > > VY 73 de chris K6DBG > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 11:48:45 -0700 (MST) > From: W8JH <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s Windows sound problem in Windoze > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I received some PM responses and am back in business. > > It was suggested that I not rename the K3s USB ports so I will give that a > try. > > My impression was that Microsoft left the ports alone while renamed but I > have learned/proven that is not the case. > > It was suggested that they should be periodically updated by MSFT when not > renamed so I will see how that goes. > > Thanks for the help offline. > > > > ----- > 73, > > Joe, W8JH > > K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user. > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 20:26:56 +0000 > From: "Alan - G4GNX" <[email protected]> > To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. > Elecraft-K4 at groups.io > Message-ID: <em39cb9929-8bd4-4b6b-bf4c-fa7a6027c687@g4gnx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks Wayne. > > I'm sure we all appreciate how busy you must be. > > It seems like a reasonable compromise and will help to keep K4 only > subjects separated from other Elecraft product discussions. > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Wayne Burdick" <[email protected]> > To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[email protected]> > Sent: 17/05/2021 17:49:16 > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. Elecraft-K4 > at groups.io > >> The number of postings we're making about K4 operation, etc., has jumped of >> late. This is due to the increase in shipping rate. >> >> I find that it's not practical to double-post everything to both the >> Elecraft-K4 list and to the main Elecraft forum. So I'll be following these >> rules: >> >> - Major announcements (including this one :) will go to both. This includes: >> >> - documentation and software updates >> - K4-related product announcements >> - issue alerts (operational or hardware) >> - technical topics of broad interest >> >> - Day-to-day discussion supporting K4 user questions will go only to the >> Elecraft-K4 list. >> >> I've resisted any sort of list bifurcation in the past, but I believe it's >> called for in this case. Regular forum readers won't have to wade through so >> many narrowly focussed K4 threads, and Elecraft-K4 readers can be assured >> that no official Elecraft postings will be omitted from that list. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:44:05 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 postings: Main Elecraft reflector vs. > Elecraft-K4 at groups.io [Clarification] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Just to clarify: We *will* of course answer all K4 questions posted to > Elecraft's regular forum. > > But threads originating on Elecraft-K4 (the other list) will be answered > there, without being re-posted on the regular list. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > >> On May 17, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The number of postings we're making about K4 operation, etc., has jumped of >> late. This is due to the increase in shipping rate. >> >> I find that it's not practical to double-post everything to both the >> Elecraft-K4 list and to the main Elecraft forum. So I'll be following these >> rules: >> >> - Major announcements (including this one :) will go to both. This includes: >> >> - documentation and software updates >> - K4-related product announcements >> - issue alerts (operational or hardware) >> - technical topics of broad interest >> >> - Day-to-day discussion supporting K4 user questions will go only to the >> Elecraft-K4 list. >> >> I've resisted any sort of list bifurcation in the past, but I believe it's >> called for in this case. Regular forum readers won't have to wade through so >> many narrowly focussed K4 threads, and Elecraft-K4 readers can be assured >> that no official Elecraft postings will be omitted from that list. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 08:44:01 -0700 > From: Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Funny K4 Story > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have an external meter on each of my antenna feedlines so I know the > actual SWR for each antenna. Also see a difference in the reported power > out on my (still) K3 versus the power reported on the external SWR/PWR > meter. > > Tom w7sua > >> On 5/16/2021 4:40 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: >> I believe the SWR meter in the transceiver is at the input of the >> internal tuner, not the output.? Since it always reads close to 1:1 when >> the tuner is engaged you may not notice if the antenna has a high SWR. >> >> Alan N1AL >> >> >>> On 5/16/2021 5:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> The K4 shows all four TX bar graphs simultaneously:? power, SWR, ALC, >>> and compression. In addition you can select numeric display of power, >>> SWR, supply voltage and current drain for the status area, which >>> defaults to date/time. >>> >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> ---- >>> elecraft.com >>> >>>> On May 16, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?My K3 has a SWR display next to the RF Power meter in the Display. >>>> So it Sounds like the K4 Does Not have that type of Display ? >>>> >>>> WA6VAB? K3 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> I normally would have noticed the change in SWR, and realized that I >>>>> had an antenna problem. But, of course, I had tuned the K4 for the >>>>> first time on 80M when I received it! >>>>> >>>>> A learning moment (operator error?). Gonna try to check the antennas >>>>> out a bit more frequently! >>>>> >>>>> 73, Tom W4KX >>>>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:31:26 -0700 > From: Dave Cole <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trade: KX1, with extras, for W2 Wattmeter with > extras > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > The KX1 is no longer available, a person has exactly what I was looking > for, and we are in the process of performing the trade. > > 73, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > https://www.nk7z.net > ARRL Volunteer Examiner > ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI > ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources > >> On 5/16/21 12:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have an almost mint KX1, (recently back from service and checkup, with >> paperwork indicating all is well with the unit, and it meeting specs), >> which I am looking to trade for a almost mint condition W2 Wattmeter, >> with one HF 2K coupler, (DCHF-2000), and one VHF 200 W coupler, >> (DCV/U-200). >> >> I will pay insured express postage to you, and you pay insured express >> postage to me. >> >> Rather than attach a set of photos to the list, if you are interested, see: >> >> https://wp.me/P285zq-2id >> >> For photos and more detailed description. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:24:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: eric norris <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] XG2 Manual > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear Gang: > I am giving my XG2 to a friend who restores tube gear.? I cannot find the > instruction manual on the Elecraft site.? Does anyone have a link or a pdf?? > Thanks! > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > > ? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 16:38:22 -0700 > From: Wes <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG2 Manual > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If you find one and/or a schematic I need one too.? My XG2 is dead on 20 > meters. > > Wes? N7WS > >> On 5/18/2021 4:24 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: >> Dear Gang: >> I am giving my XG2 to a friend who restores tube gear.? I cannot find the >> instruction manual on the Elecraft site.? Does anyone have a link or a pdf?? >> Thanks! >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 16:44:55 -0700 > From: Dick Dievendorff <[email protected]> > To: eric norris <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG2 Manual > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/XG2/Manuals%20Downloads/E740084%20XG2%20Manual%20Rev%20G.pdf > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > >> On May 18, 2021, at 16:26, eric norris via Elecraft >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ?Dear Gang: >> I am giving my XG2 to a friend who restores tube gear. I cannot find the >> instruction manual on the Elecraft site. Does anyone have a link or a pdf? >> Thanks! >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >> >> ? >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:45:45 -0500 > From: Jim Rhodes <[email protected]> > To: Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Funny K4 Story > Message-ID: > <CALhxr4bNksW3kj8UVwqw3LRXAnm9XHgYctOUb-U-qu_5g4=q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > With internal tuners on everything I have stopped using power/SWR meters on > my rigs. If you are matching your antenna before you get to the meter the > meter just won't tell you anything useful. I suppose I could put one > between the KPA500 and the KAT500 But I don't use it often and the KPA has > the barograph meters as well as the digital display anyway. > >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:44 AM Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have an external meter on each of my antenna feedlines so I know the >> actual SWR for each antenna. Also see a difference in the reported power >> out on my (still) K3 versus the power reported on the external SWR/PWR >> meter. >> >> Tom w7sua >> >>> On 5/16/2021 4:40 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: >>> I believe the SWR meter in the transceiver is at the input of the >>> internal tuner, not the output. Since it always reads close to 1:1 when >>> the tuner is engaged you may not notice if the antenna has a high SWR. >>> >>> Alan N1AL >>> >>> >>> On 5/16/2021 5:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>>> The K4 shows all four TX bar graphs simultaneously: power, SWR, ALC, >>>> and compression. In addition you can select numeric display of power, >>>> SWR, supply voltage and current drain for the status area, which >>>> defaults to date/time. >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> elecraft.com >>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?My K3 has a SWR display next to the RF Power meter in the Display. >>>>> So it Sounds like the K4 Does Not have that type of Display ? >>>>> >>>>> WA6VAB K3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> I normally would have noticed the change in SWR, and realized that I >>>>>> had an antenna problem. But, of course, I had tuned the K4 for the >>>>>> first time on 80M when I received it! >>>>>> >>>>>> A learning moment (operator error?). Gonna try to check the antennas >>>>>> out a bit more frequently! >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Tom W4KX >>>>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > -- > Jim K0XU > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:15:23 -0700 > From: Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], "[email protected] >> Elecraft > Reflector" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Funny K4 Story > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I put my meters between my KAT500 and the antennas as wanted to see the > actual feedline SWR. Both my K3 and my KPA500 let me know if the KAT500 > is not able to match ( and of course the LED display on the KAT500). > > 73, tom w7sua > > > >> On 5/18/2021 4:45 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: >> With internal tuners on everything I have stopped using power/SWR meters >> on my rigs. If you are matching your antenna before you get to the meter >> the meter just won't tell you anything useful. I suppose I could put one >> between the KPA500 and the KAT500 But I don't use it often?and the KPA >> has the barograph meters as well as the digital display anyway. >> >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:44 AM Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I have an external meter on each of my antenna feedlines so I know the >> actual SWR for each antenna. Also see a difference in the reported >> power >> out on my (still) K3 versus the power reported on the external SWR/PWR >> meter. >> >> Tom w7sua >> >>> On 5/16/2021 4:40 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: >>> I believe the SWR meter in the transceiver is at the input of the >>> internal tuner, not the output.? Since it always reads close to >> 1:1 when >>> the tuner is engaged you may not notice if the antenna has a high >> SWR. >>> >>> Alan N1AL >>> >>> >>> On 5/16/2021 5:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>>> The K4 shows all four TX bar graphs simultaneously:? power, SWR, >> ALC, >>>> and compression. In addition you can select numeric display of >> power, >>>> SWR, supply voltage and current drain for the status area, which >>>> defaults to date/time. >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com> >>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Ray <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?My K3 has a SWR display next to the RF Power meter in the Display. >>>>> So it Sounds like the K4 Does Not have that type of Display ? >>>>> >>>>> WA6VAB? K3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> I normally would have noticed the change in SWR, and realized >> that I >>>>>> had an antenna problem. But, of course, I had tuned the K4 for >> the >>>>>> first time on 80M when I received it! >>>>>> >>>>>> A learning moment (operator error?). Gonna try to check the >> antennas >>>>>> out a bit more frequently! >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Tom W4KX >>>>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> >>> Please help support this email list: >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim K0XU >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:39:41 -0700 > From: Wes <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG2 Manual > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks, > >> On 5/18/2021 4:44 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: >> ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/XG2/Manuals%20Downloads/E740084%20XG2%20Manual%20Rev%20G.pdf >> >> 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:46:18 +0000 (UTC) > From: Randy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > When I tune the VFO knob on 10 meters I hear a scratching type noise.? This > problem only occurs on 10. > > There was an Elecraft mod that addressed this issue for early serial number > K3's but my K3 is a later? unit with the mod built in at the factory during > production.?Can anyone shed some light on this issue?? I assume that this is > not normal operation.?73?Randy > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 13:59:51 +0000 > From: "Paul Kirley" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters > Message-ID: <emce5da2b2-c9af-4dda-b8ae-666913c3e58d@paul-pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Based on the description of your rig, you have the original synthesizer(s). > The noise mod involved adding some resistors and diodes to the K3 main board > at specific spots and making some firmware adjustments. > > On the assumption that you have the resistors and diodes already, per your > description of your K3 vintage, here are the firmware comments from the mod > instructions: > > ************************** > IMPORTANT: You must install the resistors and diodes as described above > before changing the bus > clock rate. Failure to do so will result in erratic behavior of your K3. > 1. Download and install firmware revision 3.24 or later. Refer to the K3 > software page for instructions. > 2. IMPORTANT: Locate the CONFIG:VCO MD menu entry, and tap the 1 keypad > switch until you > see SPI 2; this selects the new bus clock rate. (The default setting is SPI > 1.) > ************************* > > I will email you the mod instructions separately so that you can see where > the resistors and diodes should be (although Elecraft may have relocated them > in later production). Then you can proceed with the CONFIG setting. > > 73, Paul W8TM > > > [Elecraft] K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 Meters > Randy w9zr at aol.com > Wed May 19 06:46:18 EDT 2021 > > When I tune the VFO knob on 10 meters I hear a scratching type noise. This > problem only occurs on 10. > There was an Elecraft mod that addressed this issue for early serial number > K3's but my K3 is a later unit with the mod built in at the factory during > production. Can anyone shed some light on this issue? I assume that this is > not normal operation. 73 Randy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Randy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Problem, VFO Noise While Rotating On 10 > Meters > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Paul?Thanks for the reply.?I have the upgraded SYN-3A synthesizer and the > rig came from the factory with the resistor and diode mod installed.? The > clock rate is set to SP2.?I should have mentioned that info in the original > post.?73?Randy?In a message dated 5/19/2021 7:02:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes:? > Based on the description of your rig, you have the original synthesizer(s).? > The noise mod involved adding some resistors and diodes to the K3 main board > at specific spots and making some firmware adjustments.?On the assumption > that you have the resistors and diodes already, per your description of your > K3 vintage, here are the firmware comments from the mod > instructions:?**************************IMPORTANT: You must install the > resistors and diodes as described above before changing the busclock rate. > Failure to do so will result in erratic behavior of your K3.1. Download and > install firmware revision 3.24 or later. Refer to the K3 software page for > instructions.2. IMPORTANT: Locate the CONFIG:VCO MD menu entry, and tap the 1 > keypad switch until yousee SPI 2; this selects the new bus clock rate. (The > default setting is SPI 1.)*************************?I will email you the mod > instructions separately so that you can see where the resistors and diodes > should be (although Elecr > aft may have relocated them in later production).? Then you can proceed with > the CONFIG setting.?73, Paul W8TM??[Elecraft] K3 Problem, VFO Noise While > Rotating On 10 MetersRandy w9zr at aol.comWed May 19 06:46:18 EDT 2021?When I > tune the VFO knob on 10 meters I hear a scratching type noise.? This problem > only occurs on 10.There was an Elecraft mod that addressed this issue for > early serial number K3's but my K3 is a later? unit with the mod built in at > the factory during production. Can anyone shed some light on this issue?? I > assume that this is not normal operation. 73 Randy? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:56:48 -0500 > From: Jim Rhodes <[email protected]> > To: Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected] >> Elecraft Reflector" > <[email protected]>, Jim Rhodes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Funny K4 Story > Message-ID: > <CALhxr4bar54GVwbZ+Lo7gh5BJsfvvU=nlxxctfm+950xymo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Well a meter calibrated for a 50 ohm system will give you a relative > indication, but accuracy will vary with the actual VSWR on the line. The > further off of 50 ohms the less accurate it will be. > >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I put my meters between my KAT500 and the antennas as wanted to see the >> actual feedline SWR. Both my K3 and my KPA500 let me know if the KAT500 >> is not able to match ( and of course the LED display on the KAT500). >> >> 73, tom w7sua >> >> >> >>> On 5/18/2021 4:45 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: >>> With internal tuners on everything I have stopped using power/SWR meters >>> on my rigs. If you are matching your antenna before you get to the meter >>> the meter just won't tell you anything useful. I suppose I could put one >>> between the KPA500 and the KAT500 But I don't use it often and the KPA >>> has the barograph meters as well as the digital display anyway. >>> >>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:44 AM Tom Azlin W7SUA <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I have an external meter on each of my antenna feedlines so I know >> the >>> actual SWR for each antenna. Also see a difference in the reported >>> power >>> out on my (still) K3 versus the power reported on the external >> SWR/PWR >>> meter. >>> >>> Tom w7sua >>> >>> On 5/16/2021 4:40 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: >>>> I believe the SWR meter in the transceiver is at the input of the >>>> internal tuner, not the output. Since it always reads close to >>> 1:1 when >>>> the tuner is engaged you may not notice if the antenna has a high >>> SWR. >>>> >>>> Alan N1AL >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/16/2021 5:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>>>> The K4 shows all four TX bar graphs simultaneously: power, SWR, >>> ALC, >>>>> and compression. In addition you can select numeric display of >>> power, >>>>> SWR, supply voltage and current drain for the status area, which >>>>> defaults to date/time. >>>>> >>>>> Wayne >>>>> N6KR >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Ray <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?My K3 has a SWR display next to the RF Power meter in the >> Display. >>>>>> So it Sounds like the K4 Does Not have that type of Display ? >>>>>> >>>>>> WA6VAB K3 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> I normally would have noticed the change in SWR, and realized >>> that I >>>>>>> had an antenna problem. But, of course, I had tuned the K4 for >>> the >>>>>>> first time on 80M when I received it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A learning moment (operator error?). Gonna try to check the >>> antennas >>>>>>> out a bit more frequently! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, Tom W4KX >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> >>>> Please help support this email list: >>> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto: >> [email protected]> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jim K0XU >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > > -- > Jim K0XU > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 11:02:12 -0700 (MST) > From: Rick Miller - N1RM <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] [K4] First Impressions of K4 SN122 (LONG!) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I put SN122 through its initial paces today. Here are some of observations: > Appearance and general behavior: > 1. This is a very good looking radio. The front panel design looks great. > 2. The rear panel has more room than the K3. > 3. The BNC connectors protrude farther out the back panel than the K3, and > look a little strange to me. (But who really cares what the back panel looks > like!) > 4. The touch screen is extremely easy to read in all lighting conditions > that I've used so far (it's gorgeous!). > 5. The touch response is very good, though every once in a while it seems to > have to "think" a little before responding. > > Build quality: > > 1. The cabinet fit and finish are as good as I've seen. It's very solid and > the finish is great. > > 2. The interior is very interesting. Most parts appear to be very cleanly > integrated. The CPU has a bit of a "tacked on" appearance. I applaud > Elecraft for not trying to design their own high performance processor > board, but the interface cabling looks a little ad hoc. It all works, but I > have to wonder how it would survive getting knocked around enroute to a > Dxpediton. > > 3. The front headphone jack was completely dead on my radio, but the rear > headphone jack was fine. It was pretty easy to figure out how to release the > front panel (thanks to Wayne's excellent video on the 3D model of the K4). > The front headphone jack attaches to its circuit board with a socket that > plugs onto a 4-pin header. That connector was completely off the header. > When I connected it, I noticed that the insertion force was almost nil, so > it's likely that it came off during shipment. I slightly bent a couple of > the header pins to provide a little more friction. When I got it back > together it worked fine. I believe that it would be good to consider adding > more physical restraint to that connection. > > 4. The pushbutton switches on the front panel are much more solid, with > better tactile feedback than the K3. I like them much better. > > Operating impressions: > > 1. Rx audio seems to be less fatiguing than the K3. > > 2. Tx audio reports were very good (from trusted critical sources). > > 3. Tx audio compression seems to be very weak compared to the K3. Even at > 30 (max setting), it seemed to do less than a setting of 10 on the K3. It > might need some DSP attention. > > 4. Most of the UI is absolutely great. Things like setting EQ levels for Tx > and Rx using a touch screen were a real dream-come-true. There are multiple > ways to do many things, and there is a little bit of irregularity in the > ways to do things. However, overall I think it is very easy to use given the > complexity and huge variety of controls that are needed. > > 5. The spectrum display system is a work of art. I always found it necessary > to have an external monitor on the P3 to make it really effective. In most > cases, I feel that the spectrum display on the K4's built-in screen could > stand alone. However, I'm hanging on to my external monitor because the > ability to configure it independently of the built-in screen likely will > open up many valuable use-cases for display management. > > 6. Data and CW decoders can run simultaneously on the A and B VFO > frequencies. So this radio can actually copy two different QSOs at the same > time. That's very cool. Also the CW decoder seems to work better than the > K3's, though that's hard to quantify. One caveat - I believe using both > decoders is effectively a "multi-channel decoder" as defined by some contest > rules. You may want to check before enabling it during a contest to ensure > it doesn't put you into the Assisted category if you don't want to be there. > > Station installation: > > 1. My goal was to disconnect my K3s/P3 pair, and then "drop in" the K4, > making note of the changes that needed to be made. It turned out to be very > easy to get it going in my station. Here's a quick summary of what I did: > a. For CAT control, I moved the DE-9 from the P3 to the DE-9 on the K4, > removing the daisy chain cable between the radio and the P3. > b. The K-Pod changed from its original custom cable to a standard USB > cable going to the back panel. > c. The external monitor changed from a VGA connector on the P3 to an HDMI > connector on the K4 (fortunately my monitor has an HDMI port). > d. I added a (shielded) Ethernet connection. > e. I removed the IF plumbing for the P3. > Everything else was identical between the K3 and K4. That includes keying in > and out, accessory connector going to KPA/KAT500, custom TX inhibit input, > and Mortty FSK. Special shoutout to N6TV for the awesome Y-box! Since I > used the RS-232 serial connection for control, I didn't have to change > ANYTHING in N1MM to take control of the K4. It just worked! All I had to do > was select the different sound card instantiation that appeared in windows > to get data modes working. Actually, I also needed to select the correct > inputs on the K4 for the different modes and set levels. But the transition > from a fully integrated K3s/P3 to a fully integrated K4 was less than an > hour, including full N1MM integration. There are so many different ways to > integrate both the K3 and K4 that your mileage will almost certainly vary. > > 2. The K4 takes less room horizontally than the K3/P3 combo, but it is > deeper (see attached photos). That actually helped me because the front > panel ended up a little closer to me than the K3's did. I have a pretty > deep desk, but if you have tight quarters in front of your K3, you may have > to rearrange some things. > > One weird thing: > 1. I noticed very shortly after I turned the radio on for the first time (AF > gain at zero, no antenna connected) that I thought I had a ringing in my > ears. When I turned off the radio it went away. It wasn't loud, it just > felt like a very slight case of tinnitus. It was sort of like one of those > high pitched tones that you try to guess if it's there during a hearing > test. I noticed that it seemed to come and go as the display came up and > went away. (I resisted the urge to hold my finger up and down as it came and > went :) Then I noticed that it got fainter if I turned the display > brightness down. Just to be sure I wasn't imagining it, I hooked a > microphone up to my PC and Audacity, held it in front of the display, and > then powered up the radio. I could see nothing in the time domain, but when > I ran a spectrum on it, there was a very distinct spike at 10 kHz. The spike > disappeared with the radio off. The "ham demographic" probably includes very > few who could hear it, but I'm one of them. Just to put it in proper > perspective, I'm that guy who during sound checks in church says "where is > that squeal coming from?" and everyone else looks at me like I'm nuts. It's > just barely on the edge of being annoying, but there is hopefully something > that can be done to mitigate it for those of us that can still hear weak 10 > kHz audio. My guess is that it is a DC-DC boost converter somewhere in the > display with a ringing inductor. > > Bottom line: > While very reminiscent of the K3, this is NOT a K3. It sounds better on Tx > and Rx and its UI is a whole new animal for Elecraft (in a good way!). It > has far more connectivity and control options than the K3, which means you > will have to invest some time to learn how the K4 thinks and acts. I waited > exactly 2 years (to the day!) for this radio, and I can say that it was > certainly worth it for me. Congratulations to Wayne and the whole Elecraft > team for getting this radio out under some really tough conditions. > > 73, be safe, have fun! > > Rick Miller > N1RM > > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/t246436/N1RM-K3.jpg> > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/t246436/N1RM-K4.jpg> > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:36:57 -0500 > From: Frank Krozel <[email protected]> > To: elecraft <[email protected]>, Elecraft > <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] XG1 crystal? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Anyone know where I can get a new 7.040 Crystal for my XG1? > -73- Frank KG9H > [email protected] > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 13:05:50 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K4] First Impressions of K4 SN122 (LONG!) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > [Re-posting my reply to the original post on groups.io] > > >> On May 19, 2021, at 12:03 AM, N1RM - Rick Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I put SN122 through its initial paces today. Here are some of observations: > > Thanks, Rick. My comments below. > > >> 3. The BNC connectors protrude farther out the back panel than the K3, and >> look a little strange to me. (But who really cares what the back panel looks >> like!) > > Unlike the K3, the five BNC connectors on K4 have bushings that are used to > physically and electrically secure the connectors to the rear panel. This is > part of the overall noise-reduction strategy. It also provides very rigid > mounting for the RF board. > > >> 2. The interior is very interesting. Most parts appear to be very cleanly >> integrated. The CPU has a bit of a "tacked on" appearance. I applaud >> Elecraft for not trying to design their own high performance processor >> board, but the interface cabling looks a little ad hoc. It all works, but I >> have to wonder how it would survive getting knocked around enroute to a >> Dxpediton. > > Our goal here was to be able to adapt to future single-board-computer > technology rather than be constrained to what's available today. Swapping > boards would be a matter of adjusting mounting screw locations on the > replaceable adapter bracket and at worst, replacing a couple of cables. > >> >> 3. The front headphone jack was completely dead on my radio, but the rear >> headphone jack was fine. It was pretty easy to figure out how to release the >> front panel (thanks to Wayne's excellent video on the 3D model of the K4). >> The front headphone jack attaches to its circuit board with a socket that >> plugs onto a 4-pin header. That connector was completely off the header.... > > We're going to improve the mating connectors. Thanks for finding and > reporting this. > > >> >> 4. The pushbutton switches on the front panel are much more solid, with >> better tactile feedback than the K3. I like them much better. > > This is due to our use of real tact switches beneath the rubber in the K4. > The K3 (and our other products with rubber switch matrices) uses carbon-dot > contacts that rely on hysteresis in the rubber itself. > > >> 3. Tx audio compression seems to be very weak compared to the K3. Even at >> 30 (max setting), it seemed to do less than a setting of 10 on the K3. It >> might need some DSP attention. > > Agreed. This is on our list. > > >> >> 4. Most of the UI is absolutely great... >> >> 5. The spectrum display system is a work of art... > >> 6. Data and CW decoders can run simultaneously on the A and B VFO >> frequencies... > > Thanks for these observations :) > >> >> One weird thing: >> 1. I noticed very shortly after I turned the radio on for the first time (AF >> gain at zero, no antenna connected) that I thought I had a ringing in my >> ears. When I turned off the radio it went away. It wasn't loud, it just >> felt like a very slight case of tinnitus. It was sort of like one of those >> high pitched tones that you try to guess if it's there during a hearing >> test. I noticed that it seemed to come and go as the display came up and >> went away. (I resisted the urge to hold my finger up and down as it came and >> went :) Then I noticed that it got fainter if I turned the display >> brightness down. Just to be sure I wasn't imagining it, I hooked a >> microphone up to my PC and Audacity, held it in front of the display, and >> then powered up the radio. I could see nothing in the time domain, but when >> I ran a spectrum on it, there was a very distinct spike at 10 kHz. The spike >> disappeared with the radio off. The "ham demographic" probably includes very >> few who could hear it, but > I'm one of them. Just to put it in proper perspective, I'm that guy who > during sound checks in church says "where is that squeal coming from?" and > everyone else looks at me like I'm nuts. It's just barely on the edge of > being annoying, but there is hopefully something that can be done to mitigate > it for those of us that can still hear weak 10 kHz audio. My guess is that it > is a DC-DC boost converter somewhere in the display with a ringing inductor. > > We'll definitely investigate whether it's a DC-DC converter on the front > panel board or within the LCD itself. If there's a way to suppress the 10 kHz > a bit, we'll find it. > > >> >> Bottom line: >> While very reminiscent of the K3, this is NOT a K3. It sounds better on Tx >> and Rx and its UI is a whole new animal for Elecraft (in a good way!). It >> has far more connectivity and control options than the K3, which means you >> will have to invest some time to learn how the K4 thinks and acts. I waited >> exactly 2 years (to the day!) for this radio, and I can say that it was >> certainly worth it for me. Congratulations to Wayne and the whole Elecraft >> team for getting this radio out under some really tough conditions. > > Appreciate the feedback! > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 205, Issue 13 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
