Thanks, Dick,

But here is the real issue, not reported in my post. 

My antenna - my only antenna - is a non-resonant 600 foot square loop which 
provides amazing performance especially on high bands.  It presents SWRs that 
are higher than the no-foldback limits of the KPA1500.  I believe that limit is 
5:!.  So, frankly speaking I was planning on an amp with no built-in ATU 
followed by a wide range automatic ATU (ATK) that can handle my SWR  (total 
cost of amp + ATU well less than KPA1500😊).  And I want to do exactly what you 
described: have the ATU tune using low K3 power and then switch in the amp.  To 
do this would require getting RF power from the K3 without activating the PTT 
(used to control the amp), then activating the PTT.  This is for remote 
operation from my home in NYC to my shack/country place upstate  ( K3/0 mini 
and RemoteRig plus K3 plus internet controlled relay since 2016),. The problem 
could be solved with a toggle switch in the shack opening the PTT line, but not 
for remote.  Thus my question of whether it is possible to get RF from the K3 
w/o activating PTT.

Thanks again for your attention to this matter.

73

Buzz   

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Dievendorff <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 12:08 PM
To: James Beitchman <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can the K3 make power without activating Key Out?

Buzz: Our KAT500 and KPA1500 antenna tuners interrupt the key line with a relay 
for ATU tuning (which is done at exciter power, as we can’t hot switch ATU 
relays at QRO and amps don’t deal well with the SWR swings encountered during 
ATU tune). The K3, like most exciters, does pull down the KEY PTT line just 
before transmitting RF; we just keep that from reaching the amp.  This 
technique works with a lot of exciters, without a need to modify them to emit 
RF without pulling down the KEY line.

Our KPA1500 ATU tune button interrupts the amp key line, (putting the PA in 
standby temporarily) and can be configured to send a message to K3 or K4 to 
start tune level RF.  When ATU tune is complete, the amp sends a message to the 
exciter to cease sending RF, and after RF level drops, the amp restores the key 
line interrupt relay.

73 de Dick, K6KR

> On May 30, 2021, at 07:32, James Beitchman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think the answer is no, but I'll ask this question anyway. 
> 
> 
> 
> The station configuration is K3 followed by amp followed by automatic 
> antenna coupler, where the Key Out line of the K3 is used to switch 
> the amp inline.
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to generate RF from the K3 without switching the amp 
> inline in order to operate the automatic antenna coupler at low power 
> from the K3 before putting the amp inline.  This mean generating RF 
> from the K3 without activating the Key Out line. Is there any way to do that 
> using K3 controls?
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> 
> Buzz
> 
> W3EMD
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