The difference there is that you(r club) own/s, maintain/s the station, not rents it.  Just as I operate my home station from where I happen to be.  It is also what I suggested for those infected with HOA rules.

I'll double down; any station that uses a remote receiver to augment "for awards, certificates or similar" is a blight; an immoral aberration to our hobby.  (I'm excluding nets, that isn't for any awards, but will fail when it's real.)

Jim, I agree, rental hopping for the purposes of DXCC or similar, is equally immoral and as such, should be banned from such awards.  Use your own, a club or a friends station WHILE physically there if your morality reaches that far.  Mine doesn't; I've used other stations and entered into THEIR log, not mine (the station is not mine, simple).

I've read the OP page on QRZ and that's all great; a life WELL lived.  But to call a non-radio owner a ham, just isn't right. It's ham RADIO, not ham internet.

Noise was one of the reasons for me escaping the HOA world; some things just can't be fixed.  I was able to make informed choices on my purchase, which has made ALL the difference (in DXing at least).  -127 dBm is my normal noise floor on most bands now; not the -80 I had before.

At the least, own a simple HT, KX#, to call yourself a ham in more than license.

73 all,
Rick NK7I


On 6/29/2021 12:47 PM, Gordon LaPoint wrote:
I setup a remote about 10 miles from my house, with KT1I and WB8PKK, because KT1I had to move into an apartment with no antennas, and my noise level has gone to 20overS9 on 80-20 and is some what bad on 18-10.  I still use my home station, but use the remote for low bands.  So I can see the benifet of setting up and using remotes.
See: http:\\www.n1mgo.org
Gordon - N1MGO

On 6/29/2021 15:41 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 6/29/2021 11:53 AM, Bert wrote:
What has that to do with his opinion about renting a ham station?
Did I miss something?

Yes. Two things. With all this guy has done with ham radio, I don't think anyone has the right to lecture him on what ham radio is.

And eventually, if we live long enough, all of us are likely to be in situations where having our own station is simply not possible. I fail to see a problem with operating another station remotely.

My only objection (and is a STRONG one) is the use of a station geographically positioned to add a new country or band country to one's DXCC count.

73, Jim K9YC
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