I'm about 25 km LOS from W7RN.  W7RN is 30 over S9 here on 160, 10 over on 80, about S7 on 40 anytime.  I can barely see it on the P3 [and it's QRK2 in the noise on the headphones] on 20, and missing above 20.  K2RD in SW Reno is a bit closer, but the same prevails for the ground wave for Ira.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Jim Brown wrote on 12/17/2021 11:05 PM:
On 12/18/2021 1:09 AM, Ken WA8JXM wrote:
Some people may be
confusing groundwave (usually up to 25 miles) with NVIS.

Yes, AND groundwave weakens drastically with increasing frequency. With average soil, a station operating on 550 kHz will be 21 dB stronger at 100 miles than a station running the same power than one operating on 1600 kHz, assuming both are using a single quarter wave tower.

73, Jim K9YC



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