This may sound like a silly question, but are you sure you have the plugs in 
the right way round? i.e. Not swapped over.

AFAIK this problem has not been reported on the K4 reflector and I know other 
folks are using them.

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700




> On 31 Jul 2023, at 00:40, Oscar Staudt <wb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When I got my K4D a month ago, I unplugged my Yamaha CM-500 mic and
> headphones from my K3, and plugged them into the back of my K4.  I set the
> mic input to rear, and mic bias on.  I expected the mic to perform
> like it had in the K3.
> 
> 
> I attempted to get 3-5 bars of ALC by turning up the mic gain control.  Even
> with the gain up to 80, I’d have to speak *very* loudly to just get a
> flicker on the ALC meter.
> 
> 
> I then went back into the mic configuration and turned on the preamp (14dB).
> After that I could get  some ALC bars with the mic gain around 65 or more.  
> But
> I still  had to talk much louder than I had to with the same mic on the K3.
> (note:  mic level on the K3 was set around 7).
> 
> 
> Question:  Is it reasonable to expect that I’d have to have the mic gain at
> such a high level - and still have to talk louder than my normal (K3)
> level?
> 
> 
> BTW, I can hook up the MH-4, switch to front mic, and all works smooth with
> mic gain around 12.

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