Folks - This discussion has both drifted off topic and also exceeded by a significant amount the number of posts allowed to a single topic.
Let's end this topic -now- and get back to our regular Elecraft centric discussions. 73, Eric *elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com>* Moderator, on occasion. On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 9:59 AM Julia Tuttle via Elecraft < [email protected]> wrote: > I wonder if anyone has been able to use the distributed receiver networks > we already have (the Reverse Beacon Network, whatever backs aprs.fi, etc.) > to identify and contact some of these folks -- specifically, "techs > operating FT8 where they're only allowed CW" could be a 'simple' matter of > cross-referencing those spotted transmissions with ULS license class data. > > 73, > > Julie > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025, 12:34 Bob McGraw via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I read the messages regarding the topic. There were many misguided > > thoughts and comments in my review of the messages as posted. > > > > Yes, if you operated LSB on 7.125 your signal was in the CW portion of > > the band. Even if one operated 3 kHz higher, 7.128 kHz, your sideband > > was likely into the CW portion of the band. And if one operated below > > 7.175 with a General Class license you were out of the General Class of > > the band allocation. > > > > The ARRL and the FCC have a written agreement regarding the monitoring > > of amateur frequencies. This is known as the ARRL Volunteer Monitor > > program. The members are volunteers who have attended and participated > > in formal training, both by video conferences and written materials. > > There is an administrator of this program at ARRL. On a monthly basis, > > and on an as needed basis ,there is a formal method whereby members of > > the VM program document and report infractions. These are reviewed by > > the ARRL VM administrator and assistants. Three things typically occur > > with the reports: (a) no action taken, (b) the offender is sent a > > letter from the ARRL VM administrator citing the offense, (c) the matter > > is referred to the FCC for action. > > > > From the other side of the fence, the FCC has in fact on several > > occasions asked the ARRL VM program to look for and document specific > > issues considered to be in violation. This is fact whereby selected > > hams are performing certain monitoring services for the FCC. There > > are specific and strict procedures being followed in all cases. > > > > This weekend, I personally identified and documented 12 different ham > > radio stations by call, being operated outside of their license > > privileges. These were reported to the ARRL VM program for review and > > any deemed actions. > > > > Just hope your operation and station call wasn't on my list. I'm not a > > bad guy, I'm just doing the job you have asked to be done. There is a > > program to do such. And it works. > > > > Here is a summary report of actual actions for July 2025 as published > > in QST. > > > > * Technician operators in Indiana, Colorado and Arizona were issued > > advisories concerning 20-meter FT-8 operation, a band on which > > Technicians have no privileges. > > > > * Technician operators in Kansas and California were issued advisories > > concerning 40-meter FT-8 operation, on 40-meters where Technicians only > > have CW privileges. > > > > * An operator in Georgia was issued and advisory concerning > > transmitting music on 75 meters, which is prohibited by Section > > 97.113(a)(4) of the FCC rules. > > > > * The monitoring hours reported for July 2025 were 1067 hours on HF > > frequencies and 1883 hours on VHF. > > > > Yes we can do better and we can do more. It takes time and manpower. > > There are many areas of the spectrum that needs attention. There are > > many areas which are seeing improvements in operator discipline. Just > > don't be one of those on the list. > > > > 73 > > > > Bob, K4TAX > > > > > > On 10/27/2025 8:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:12:35 +0000 (UTC) > > > From: Al Lorona<[email protected]> > > > To: Elecraft Reflector<[email protected]> > > > Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Illegal contacts during the CQ WW Phone > > > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > If I were the FCC, I would camp out on or near 7.125 MHz on Saturday > > during the CQ WW Phone contest and start logging the calls of all the US > > operators calling DX stations there. (If you call on that frequency on > LSB, > > you're illegally transmitting out-of-band.) > > > Just between the 1st and 7th innings of the baseball game yesterday, I > > logged 30 stations who did exactly that: they all called IP9C on 7,125.5. > > I'm sure there were many more. > > > I have no idea whether the scoring committee disallows contacts made > > this way, or whether that's even checked. Certainly, those stations > should > > not get credit for the illegal contacts. > > > W6LX said that. > > > Al? W6LX > > -- > > Patience please; Rome wasn't destroyed in a single day! > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
