Larry you make such a great point here.////
This is why I cancelled an order a few years ago from another manufacturer for a very large expensive radio. BEFORE IT SHIPPED.. and it appears that it was the right choice as there were ongoing changes (hard and soft)which were never really "finished" in my opinion.

I have an expectation with Eric & Wayne..and Elecraft that if such hardware changes are necessary that those "early adopters" would be covered like a blanket.

Bill  NY9H     K2# 269   K3# ___


Now this is the spot where we hear some comment from Eric or Wayne saying something like..." of course!!!.



I may wait for the second production run, although that may be sold out by the end of Dayton ;-) I'm guessing 200 for the first run, and maybe as many as 1,000 for the second run. I would like to hear feedback between those runs, but I don't think there will be time for much feedback. My main concern would be hardware changes between runs on the first few runs, and how they would be handled for early buyers. Obviously firmware changes are no problem. As good as the K3 design appears to be, there are always little running changes in a rollout.

73,
Larry N8LP



johnny wrote:
Hi Larry,
I have enough with my FTDX9000 and luckily I have already sold it only at some losses. Even I now have my IC7800, I still placed my order for K3. As everyone here, I appreciate the customer support from Elecraft. I have enough experience with Ft2000 and FTDX9000 which I do not discuss in an Elecraft mail reflector. K3 will be my new rig which can be serviced by myself to some degree. I like my IC7800 but if the radio has anything wrong, my hands will be up in the air and a tip to ICOM service center is unavoidable.
cheers,
Johnny Siu VR2XMC

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Larry Phipps <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    *To:* Bill W5WVO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    *Cc:* [Elecraft] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:09 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft customer service: appreciate it!

    I wonder if there is any K3 chatter on the FT-2000 list... seems like
    they are squarely in the crosshairs ;-)

    Larry N8LP



    Bill W5WVO wrote:
    > Just as an aside on the tremendously personal and intimate
    experience of participating in the K3 roll-out, I've also been
    monitoring the FT-2000 Yahoo group to see what they're talking
    about over there. Over the past week, nearly 100% of the
    voluminous postings there have been about firmware updates.
    >
    > 1) A new firmware revision called v1.26 showed up on the
    Internet from SOMEWHERE -- nobody knows where it came from. A lot
    of people tried to install it and found serious problems. Yaesu
    eventually disclaimed it as somebody's unauthorized hack and
    advised people not to install it. This took weeks.
    >
    > 2) People began wondering how they could determine what firmware
    revision their unit is running. Answer: Fuhgedaboudit. There is no
    way to get feedback from the FT-2000 as to its own firmware
    revision. So patently absurd that nobody could believe it until it
    was finally confirmed by a Yaesu tech rep. Reason: Yaesu keeps
    track of what firmware revision is in your radio on a
    serial-number basis. You don't need to know this.
    >
    > 3) When a new and officially sanctioned v1.27 firmware update
    finally emerged, people wondered what bug fixes it covered and
    what new features it offered. Answer: Fuhgedaboudit. You don't
    need to know this. Just trust Yaesu that it's better. Well, your
    country's sales rep might be able to find out for you... If you
    can actually talk to him. Or maybe not.
    >
    > 4) Want to go to the Yaesu website and download the update?
    Fuhgedaboudit. You can only get it by email from an authorized rep
    from your particular country on a one-by-one basis. Got problems
    and you want it right now? Fuhgedaboudit. You get on a wait list
    and... wait. And hope it gets sent to you One of These Days Real
    Soon Now. (So as a result, unauthorized personal website postings
    of the update popped up within 24 hours of its release. Is it the
    real v1.27? The correct country-specific v1.27 for your radio? Who
    knows?)
    >
    > Y'all can thank your lucky stars that Elecraft owners have a
    completely different kind of experience with the manufacturer of
    their radio. I just thought you might like to know just how
    different it really is.
    >
    > Bill / W5WVO
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