Geoff,

While all the situations that you pose are valid measurements, I believe that the 'figure of merit' that should be applied is with both signals within the receiver passband. That alone will indicate the ability to copy a weak signal in the presence of a strong one - that is basic BDR (IMHO). Third order blocking IMD is quite another thing - there are many variables to consider. The best that we can hope for is that the 'standardized' tests will provide a good indicator of the performance on the real world - a receiver with narrow 'roofing filters' should excel in that test - although the test reports should specify the filter widths. The close spacing tests go a long way toward simulating the 'real world', but are really only a set of conditions that are defined for lab tests - the real world operating conditions may present an entirely different set of parameters.

Current tests do consider MDS to be the minimum signal that can be demodulated with no other considerations. Right or wrong, that is the way it is for now - something must be defined for lab measurements to be valid - we just trust that they are adequate to be useful in actual operating conditions.

73,
Don W3FPR


Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:
Curt,

Would you not agree that a 3rd Order dynamic range test performed with both test tones placed outside of the IF filter's passband ,with a product in the passband, does not provide a complete measure of a receiver's odd order IMD performance but only that of its front end? A receiver with a "weak" cascade following the IF filter might appear to be be a good performer based on tests done this way, but will probably fall apart when two or more strong signals enter the IF filter's passband. During the development of high performance receivers common practice in my experience was to employ multiple signal tests, two tones in the IF passband and one or two placed on the skirts. I am aware of suggestions that have been made during the past years regarding these test procedures used to evaluate amateur receivers, likewise to restore proper useage of the term MDS which is another story :-)

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