Kristinn Andersen wrote:

Regarding the CE issue I believe that radio amateurs, who need to pass
tests for their license to operate, construct and modify their own

A number of questions asked on this list about the K2 indicate that there are people building the K2 who are unable to read and interpret a circuit diagram. Even I wouldn't be able to deduce all the design decisions that went into making the equipment compliant, and they are not documented in the public domain, so I can't look them up.

framework of the Constitution and Convention of the ITU [8], unless
the equipment is available commercially. Kits of components to be

Elecraft products are available commercially.

My interpretation of components is "electronic components", i.e. resistors, capacitors, transistors, etc. Elecraft interpret it as being a noise word, with only kit being effective (although they would acccept that a combination of base unit, PA and ATU isn't a kit for that legislation. (I once read something to the effect that, when reading legal documents, every word counts.)

I think that the legislators are thinking more in terms of making it possible for me to order all the components for a published design by ordering the RadCom XYZ component set, rather than having the supplier send me the exact same set of components because I had enumerated them individually (however note that the UK licence does give an advantage to those cases where the kit is supplied as a whole, with the design).

assembled by radio amateurs and commercial equipment modified by and

Commercial equipment would have been compliant in its original use.

for the use of radio amateurs are not regarded as commercially
available equipment."

I think it is very important that we amateurs don't give in on this
issue.  Our privileges are hard earned through our testing and

The danger is that if commercial sellers try to find loopholes, in closing the loopholes the legislators may restrict things that were not previously restricted. In many cases the commercial vendor has made their profit before the legislation gets fixed, so their cash flow is good.

licensing process, they are actually recognized in international
regulations, and if the officials who execute the laws don't know
better, they need to be informed and put back on track.

They are only there because the people who make the laws believe that there is a benefit to the public in amateur radio. I don't think that is based on a simple freedom argument, I think it is based on encouraging people into engineering and technical careers, general self education, the ability to provide emergency communication, and providing a potential source of military operators. I'm not sure that the last one is so valid these days. Historically, a lot of the basic radio propagation research was done by amateurs, but I think that is becoming less relevant to the economy.

As such, from the legislators point of view, there is no fundamental need to protect amateur radio operators from legislation, so they will always be making cost benefit tradeoffs.


Regarding band limits, I think we should not be required to limit our
equipment there, either.  Nor should we by any means ask for such

In the UK, only those with full licences are permitted to use unrestricted equipment, and I am not aware that the ban on the import and sale of certain equipment that could be used illegally on CB frequencies has been removed. Other classes of licensee are allowed to use commercial kits, like the K2, provided they are frequency restricted. (The current UK licence drafting is confusing in this respect, but I don't believe any change in effect was intended from the previous, more direct, wording.)

The US has a particular limitation on receive capabilities, although it doesn't affect Elecraft products, in that reception on the cellular radio frequencies is prohibited in commercial products which are not standard cellular phone products.

However, the real issue with the current question was that it is a serious criminal offence to possess equipment operating outside of the amateur frequencies in some countries to which people often want to take equipment on holiday. That's typically because there is some separatist organisation that uses radio to coordinate military operations.

limitations ourselves!  By the nature of our hobby we are trusted to
build our radio oscillators, amplifiers and other equipment, which

In the UK, only full licensees are so trusted, and I think it might be better to say that we are trusted to know our own limits. The examinations show that we understand the issues, but don't make us fully fledged RF designers.

technically may be able to radiate all over the spectrum, but it is
our responsibility - and we should live up to that responsibility - to
make sure that our emissions are within the regulations in effect in
our countries.

Not everyone has access to spectrum analyzers. When we build something like the K2, we rely on the type, in the type approval sense, being intrinsically compliant when set up with simple tools. In principle, that is the same for a black box product that has type approval. Only one instance need be actually tested. It is then just necessary to demonstrate that manufacturing variations will not result in other instances being outside the specifications.



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