David Woolley wrote:

Craig D. Smith wrote:

Most everyone I know (including me) who uses the BuddiPole as a vertical
uses a single quarter wave elevated radial or counterpoise wire. This costs

That could equally be viewed as being a quarter wave, horizontal antenna with a vertical counterpoise. In free space, the longer of the two would dominate. Over a good ground, things get more complicated, and I'm not sure I can give a good intuitive analysis

Seemingly a quarter wave vertical with a quarter wave elevated horizontal radial was a popular antenna amongst hams in the 1930s, and continued to appear in the ARRL Antenna Handbook during the 1940s as the "Up and Out" antenna. In those days the antenna was viewed as a halfwave centre fed dipole with a 90 degree bend at the centre, although it was also used as a multiband antenna I believe. But as you point out things are a bit more complicated when the antenna is over ground. Without running a model, which might not give accurate results, my instinct suggests that both the length and angle of the 'horizontal radial' of a real single band antenna over ground might have to be adjusted to obtain a non-reactive feedpoint impedance for coax feeder - assuming that the vertical part is an electrical quarter wave. During the 1930s and 1940s open wire feeders and antenna matching units were of course the norm, which would probably make these adjustments to the 'radial' unnecessary.

73,

Geoff
GM4ESD



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