It is true that the AGC pertains to the radio and not the band, but the optimal AGC threshold setting does vary by band. On 80m, for example, I set the AGC threshold on my Ten-Tec Orion at about 20uV. On 10m, where the noise level is very low, I set it at 0.5uV. The Orion, incidentally, has fast, medium, and slow AGC settings, plus a custom "prog" setting, and one can set the threshold, decay rate and hang time independently for each speed. It is possible to spend hours fiddling with the Orion's AGC settings.>>

One of the reasons you have to change it so much is any AGC that has no effect at all until a threshold and then tips in all at once is always critical to adjust. A good AGC system has a slope rather than a hard threshold with no AGC at all below a point, and then hard AGC after that point that clamps the volume to one level.

At quiet locations the dominant noise is propagated via skywave just like the desired signals. This means the noise floor varies greatly with direction depending on propagation or even the time of day. On the same band in different directions the noise floor can vary 10 or 20 dB. This requires constant adjustment of AGC threshold with any AGC that tips in fully at a threshold.

AGC systems with a slope don't exaggerate the problem of noise level changes and they don't "muddy" the signals into one constant level or no AGC at all.

When I solid stated my R4C's I built a new AGC circuit. I put a lot of gain in the AGC, there was very little audio level change with input signal level change. On the bench it was nearly perfect, once the AGC started working everything stayed at nearly the same audio level. I worked to make it have flat audio level with varying signal levels, textbook perfect AGC.

Everyone hated it. It required constant riding of RF gain. It made weak DX stations near noise floor muddy up or vanish, and it was impossible to sort signals close in pitch in pileups.

Decreasing the gain in the AGC circuit cured it, and it was no longer necessary to ride the RF gain (same as adjusting AGC threshold).

The K3 has an AGC SLP adjustment that cures this problem. I was delighted to see the people at Elecraft included an AGC slope adjustment, and that it works to make the AGC have that "analog" sound operators here like for handling pileups and for weak signals in rough noise. Unless you have an old analog AGC system the slope adjustment is a "must have" requirement. Especially for people who work pileups or work DX that is in and out of rough noise like static crashes.

Although I just started using the K3, I really like the AGC system so far. That's in contrast to other digital AGC systems I quickly learned to *dislike*. Low band DXers or contesting people will really like the "slope adjustment" feature.

73 Tom




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