Thank you Joe for the best wishes, I send all my best wishes to all at Elecraft and all owners of K1, K2 & K3s. Season Greetings and may 2009 bring you all that you desire.

                  73 de Barry G4DBS

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:31:01 +0000
From: David Woolley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and noise
To: Elecraft <[email protected]>
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Ron Kenwood wrote:
I have a continuous S7 to S8 noise level at normal SSB bandwidths. If
I had to describe the noise, I would say it sounds like amplified
background band noise. The source is outside my house. Removing the

If the noise is close to gaussian, there is nothing any receiver noise reduction system can do with it, to actually remove it, although it can do things like muting the receiver in gaps in the speech, if the speech is above the noise, or generating a graphic equaliser that de-emphasises frequency not also being used for the speech.

I have read glowing reports on the effectiveness of the noise blanker, here and elsewhere. I am wondering if the type of noise is part of the

Noise blankers require that the noise be isolated spikes that can be cut out without removing too much of the signal.

equation, and I just have a type of noise where the noise blanker is less effective, or am I doing something wrong, or do I just have unreasonable expectations?

Knowing the source of the noise might help, as it might give a clue as to its structure and therefore whether there is anything that can be done to mitigate it.
My next step will be one of the noise canceling gadgets, if I can't improve the K3's noise performance.

For gaussian noise, the best option is to eliminate it at source. Failing that, put it in a null in the antenna pattern will help, providing the noise has a well defined direction. I assume you are referring to the sort of noise cancelling device that works by distorting the antenna pattern.

Note that such devices are not suitable when the antenna is already very directional, or the sky noise is not significantly greater than the receiver noise (the device is likely to contribute its own receiver noise).

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