Not doubting your TX IMD report in PSK.  But I typically see ~-32dB IMD when 
checking PSK at 50W. 

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73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Mon Jan 26  7:58 , "Julian, G4ILO"  sent:

>
>
>
>David Cutter wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a "sweet spot" to which one can adjust the power output for
>> minimum IMD, if so, how would you do it easily?  I presume you would need
>> another rx or spectrum analyser.  And I bet it changes with antenna
>> reflections, ie from one end of the band to the other. 
>> 
>> I dare say a lot of K3s are followed by linears which add even more IMD,
>> so, it might be tricky to optimise for the station as a whole and not just
>> at minimum drive from the K3; perhaps a power pad is needed, but who would
>> bother ?
>> 
>> It is hoped that the Elecraft linear might take this into account.
>> 
>> 
>
>
>TX IMD just goes on getting worse as you increase the power. It starts
>getting worse much more quickly as you approach and then exceed the maximum
>rated power. So your "sweet spot" would be "as little power as possible." :)
>
>The issue with the K3 is that the transmitter does not seem to be as clean
>as is possible with the "state of the sart", even given the restrictions
>imposed by having a 13.8VDC supply. I am only able to make PSK31 IMD
>measurements which are not directly comparable with two tone measurements
>usually used for SSB transmitters, but I assume that they both reflect upon
>the TX amplifier linearity, or lack of it.
>
>My K3 goes from -30dB at 2W to -22dB at 12W.
>
>My K2 goes from -29dB at 2W to -27dB at 14W (both measured on 30m).
>
>Therefore it seems to me that my K2 has a cleaner transmitter (at least as
>far as IMD goes) than my K3, which I find surprising since the K2 was built
>my me nearly 10 years ago using only the barest minimum of test equipment,
>whereas the K3 low power PA module was aligned and tested by Elecraft with a
>lab full of equipment.
>
>It seems to be the way on this reflector that anyone who makes any criticism
>of anything Elecraft makes comes in for a lot of abuse and ridicule. But I
>wonder whether those who claim the TX IMD of the K3 is poor actually have a
>valid point, but their K3s are just not as well set up as those belonging to
>people who don't see anything wrong with them?
>
>It seems unlikely to me that Elecraft would deliberately choose a worse
>design of PA for the K3 than that used successfully for years in the K2. Yet
>the figures I just gave seem to suggest that considerably better performance
>is possible. Obviously, my test results are for the QRP version. But if the
>signal going in to the 10W PA is not as good as it could be, the output is
>certainly not going to be any better.
>
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