Hello Leigh,

Thanks for your very informative reply.  My next step is to cross the border to 
source LiFePO4 cells in Shenzhen, Mainland China.  Today, China becomes the 
major manufacturer of various types of Li-ion cells.  The price is so cheap 
that the same as SLA.

BYD, one of the up rising battery car manufacturer, has its major manufacturing 
plant in Shenzhen, Mainland China.  Their share price has been double in the 
past two months.

73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC




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寄件人﹕ "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU" <[email protected]>
收件人 Johnny Siu <[email protected]>
副本(CC) Elecraft <[email protected]>
傳送日期﹕ 2009 年 7月 26 日 星期日 下午 2:57:44
主題: Re: [Elecraft] Li-ion battery pack for KBT2, K2

Johnny,
Some have done this, but the Li+ cells are prone to catch fire, so it's risky.  
SLA is well understood and less risky.
They can catch fire when over charged, of course, but also when over-discharged.

Some people are reporting the A123-manufactured Lithium Nano-Phosphate cells 
are safer than the Li+ and LiPoly.
They don't catch fire when over-discharged, for example. 
Unfortunately, they don't quite fit in the K2 battery case, at least now in a 
way I can figure.  There are also non-A123 brand LiFePO4 cells which you should 
be able to get in HK easily.  These are 3.4v and a better fit (4*3.4=13.6, max 
14.4v) for 12v radio electronics than the ~16VDC full charge of Li+.  They are 
thought to be safer than the Li+ cells, but the no-name brands don't 
necessarily have the same testing as A123 brand, so again it's more of a risk 
than SLA, though less of a risk than Li+.

LiFePO4/A123 have excellent power density, and can source 60 amps easily, so 
they must be fused close to the pack.
They don't have as good energy density as the Li+ technology, but with the K2 
that's less of an issue since its RX draw is so low.

Leigh/WA5ZNU



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