Hmmmm........... Ed, I almost tried using the built in "translator" in Outlook...but then I recognized some of those words, like "is" and "the". :-() It almost let the smoke out of my head.
Seriously though, I don't understand the filter setup technicalities. I can get through setting them up per the defaults in the manual, but I would like to understand more about what you said. I'm not sure why a filter would be advertised as a 250hz filter but actually have a (usable?) bandwidth of 370hz. Is this just a difference in how it's measured? I have SN/0690 and am just now installing the KRX3. It arrived a few months after the radio, back in mid to late 08, and I just never got around to installing it. I have identical filters in both the main and sub receiver (13khz, 6khz, 2.8 & 400 respecitively, with # 5 empty) so I can try out diversity receive. I don't do much CW so didn't figure I needed a 250hz. I'm sure I'll be asking some questions about this in short order, once I get the rig back together. I am doing some of the mods and am currently waiting on some parts and the REV C or D (or whatever it's up to now) DSP board. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Roofing filters are selected by either of two ways. One is by directly selecting FLx on the K3 front panel. The other is by changing the DSP bandwidth via WIDTH, LO CUT or HIGH CUT. When the DSP bandwidth is decreased to the crystal filter bandwidth, then that roofer is selected. (Or, when the DSP increases beyond the current roofer's bandwidth, then the next wider roofer is selected.) It is important to note that the "roofer bandwidth" is specified by the user in the K3 CONFIG menu, and you are not constrained to use either the "marketing" bandwidth or the actual bandwidth of the filter. You can put in any bandwidth you want because all you are doing is telling the K3 what DSP bandwidth to engage that particular crystal filter. Most users specify the marketing bandwidth of the filter, e.g., 250 Hz for the 250 Hz 8-pole filter. So, as you decrease the DSP bandwidth and reach 250 Hz, that crystal filter will engage. (Or, if you select FLx, then crystal filter 'x' is selected and the DSP bandwidth is set to 250 Hz.) But you can specify 350 Hz, which is actually rational since the real bandwidth of this filter is 370 Hz. Some people even specify a wider DSP bandwidth engagement point such as 400 or 450 Hz, because they want their crystal filter bandwidth INSIDE the DSP bandwidth. So, think about the relationship of the two filters (crystal and DSP), the resultant cascade bandwidth of the two, the shape factor of the two filters, and the passband shape. Decide the DSP bandwidth at which you want your particular crystal filters to engage. There are arguments for keeping the roofer wider than the DSP at all times and vice versa. Remember that when the DSP bandwidth is near the roofer's actual bandwidth, the cascade bandwidth will be significantly less. When one is much narrower than the other then the narrow bandwidth dominates the IF bandwidth, but other RX characteristics like IMD performance will be determined by the roofer bandwidth. Setting the DSP engagement bandwidths for your crystal filters affects both the resultant IF passband width, shape and "sound" of the audio, as well as the RX performance characteristics such as IMD. If your head hurts thinking about all this, just specify the bandwidth number in the part number of the filter! That is a good default and the radio will work great. Ed - W0YK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html