how do you calculate... I want to work more 6m signals and need to know the
testing method. If signals are that better then I need to add the external
unit.

Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Duffey
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: James Duffey
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Performance on 6M?

No need to speculate on the 6M K3 NF, we can calculate it. Computing the K3
noise figure from the minimum discernable signal (MDS) gives

preamp off       18 dB (K3/100 test) to 20 dB (K3/10 test)

preamp on        12 dB (Same in both tests)

compare these to other 6M rigs out there:

IC-551D
        preamp on       6dB 

        internal rf amplifier not switchable

DEM 50-28CK transverter with TS-850S IF

        preamp on       2.1 dB


FT736R
        preamp on       5.7 dB

TS2000

        preamp off       20 dB 

        preamp on        5 dB 

IC756 Pro III

        preamp off       15 dB 

        preamp on        5 dB 

FT2000
        preamp off       26 dB 

        preamp on        8 dB 

So the K3 is pretty deaf on 6M and yes, that is a result of the design
emphasis on HF strong signal handling capability. The Elecraft external
preamp with 0.7 dB noise figure and 18 dB gain helps a lot:

K3 with PR6 external preamp

        preamp on       0.9 dB

And the preamp is pretty robust to strong signals.

For terrestrial signals in a quiet rural area, a noise figure of 4dB or less
is probably adequate. For EME, you want less. For urban and suburban areas,
the noise is often high and many people, unfortunately won't notice the
inadequacy of the K3's front end on 6M. - Duffey
--
James Duffey KK6MC
DM65tc
Cedar Crest NM






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