Don, Maybe a gate implementation might work ... you set me on a search that led me to http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/ultimatic/ultimatic.html ... and that's probably the info you recalled. A quick glance won't do for this one: I'll need to study it a bit and see if it'll do the trick.
It appears that the K12 keyer could solve the problem, if the above won't. $17 for http://k1el.tripod.com/K12.html is fairly modest. I'll get back to you all shortly with the conclusion! Many thanks, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 Don Wilhelm wrote: > Alan, > > That places you in my chronological age range - yes, I have my 50 year > pin from ARRL too! > > I believe you are referring to "Ultimatic" keying - the paddle that > was last operated is the one that takes precedence - none of the > "idiotic" alternating dots and dashes (which to me is confusing). > Yes, I have tried to use Iambic, and have never been successful - I > resort to > 'slap keying' and/or a single lever paddle. Ultimatic was the first > keying method introduced with the Ultimatic Keyer (a vacuum tube > design), and it is a puzzle to me why it has not been continued - > perhaps the Curtis chip popularization of Iambic ruined the best > keying method available - not to mention the adoption of the Iambic B > mode which adds an opposite element at the end of a character - > initially that was a mistake by the Curtic designers. but they > successfully sold it as an "enhancement". > > There is a cure. Take a look at the K12 keyer by K1EL which supports > Ultimatic mode. Alternately, there was a fellow on the Elecaft > reflector (about 6 months ago - maybe longer, my memory gets > compressed with age) who developed both a logic gate and a pic > implementation of an Ultimastic to Iambic converter. I have the parts > on a perfboard for that, but have not yet finished it. Look in the > archives because I have forgotten who it was that produced the design. > > BTW - I have lobbied Elecraft for inclusion of Ultimatic keying > support for the K2 and the K3, but all I have gotten so far is a > "maybe" - I guess Wayne is occupied with more important things to do > than support us few "old farts" who remember and liked the Ultimatic > keyer". > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Alan D. Wilcox wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Fifty years ago I designed and built a tube keyer to replace my >> Vibroplex. Then a transistor keyer. All this before the iambic keyers >> came along ... >> >> Left paddle = dots >> Right = dashes >> Squeeze both paddles = dashes only. >> >> The technique I developed was to >> 1. Always squeeze _both_ keys for dashes; if I was a bit late getting >> the dash paddle closed, the logic turned the dot into a dash (as long >> as the dot hadn't finished, of course.) >> 2. If dots followed dashes, just simply let loose of the right paddle. >> 3. A string of dots would turn into dashes simply by squeezing both >> paddles together. >> >> I could send good CW at fairly-respectable speeds, and was happy. For >> decades ... until I got the K2 and the K3. >> >> Then I tried to get the hang of iambic keying, and the best I can do >> is slap-keying or stagger along at 10 wpm or slower iambic. >> >> Questions: >> 1. Is there a way to kludge the K2 or K3 keying logic for squeeze >> keying? >> 2. Does anyone make a keyer with my logic? WHO? All I've ever seen >> are iambic. >> 3. If neither, and I wind up building my new keyer myself, is this >> something anybody else would want? >> >> Cheers, >> Alan >> >> Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) >> 570-321-1516 >> http://WilcoxEngineering.com >> Williamsport, PA 17701 >> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html