Jobst--

Thanks for yoiur answer to my question about DMC's definition, and for your postings about its properties.

Sure, DMC has some desirable properties, and, having a pairwise count and a points count, lets those counts serve as "checks & balances" for eachother.

I don't claim that my criteria are the only important ones, or criticize other criteria or properties, but there are several criteria that, for me, are the important ones.

For public political elections:

FBC. That's the important one for public political elections. But SFC would be good too, and also the other majority defensive strategy criteria--GSFC, WDSC, & SDSC.

For organizations and committees:

The majority defensive strategy criteria--SFC, GSFC, WDSC, & SDSC. If an organization has a really undesirable candidate, as is possible even in a small organization, then FBC would be convenient to have. But it would come at the cost of GSFC, and, less importantlyi, Ccndorcet's Criterion & Smith's Criterion. As I was saying yesterday, FBC is only really necessary when there's at least one reallly undesirable candidate, AND some voters are seriously mistaken (in the opinioni of other voters) aboiut what is acceptable. Though that condition definitely obtains in our public political elections, it probably won't happen in organizations, and so, since FBC is probably incompatible with GSFC, I'd probabaly choose GSFC.

Approval & RV have the social optimization properties that some of have already discussed.

Because of thoses criterion preferences, I like the following methods.


Organizations & committees:

BeatpathWinner or CSSD. Or, if more simplicity is desired) PC, MDDA or MDDB. Choosing between PC vs MDDA or MDDB would be a matter of choosing between FBC vs Condorcet's Criterion and Smith's Criterion. Since PC might not meet GSFC, the choice beween it and MDDA or MDDB isn't so obvious. I'm not sure which I'd choose. Approval or RV would be good too, but, for this application I prefer the rank method listed.


Public political elections:


Best: MDDA, or maybe MDDB, which combine FBC with SFC, thereby accomodating the needs of different kinds of voters. It now seems to me that MDDA is better than MDDB. I'd said that SR would be a good proposal under certain conditions, when people insist on a really simple rank method that only has one part. But the power-truncation that SR needs probably spoils its one-part simplicity. Of course the power truncation could be added aftwerwards though, in a subsequent initiative. So maybe SR is still in the running. Approval or RV would be good too, meeting FBC and having advantages of their own. Most winnable of the good public methods: RV.

Mike Ossipoff


Mike Ossipoff

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