At 04:26 PM 10/4/2005, Warren Smith wrote:
we did a range voting poll in 2004 - discussed
in   http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/PsEl04.html
and found that MOST votes were non-strategic.

In a *poll*, Mr. Smith. People may very well vote differently if, as you have been fond of pointing out, they are going to be executed or exiled if the wrong candidate wins the election.... and perhaps with much less incentive than that.

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I also point out that Robla on a previous occasion agreed that RV was a good system
and, if I recall correctly said he would be "dancing in the streets" were it
enacted.   However, yesterday he said he could "never support it"
in view of its "glaring defects."

Perhaps his original indication of pleasure would be because the status quo is *worse*. If the public were accustomed to better voting methods, they would *never* support the standard methods. Mr. Lanphier, I presume, was simply pointing out an apparent defect in the system, one that appears plausible at first sight, and which must be clearly addressed if Range is to see actual implementation.

     This behavior seems compatible
with the theory that he is "on drugs"...   but probably it is simply a mater
of robla's priorities getting a little skewed by a little too much exposure to
the EM nerdworld, and after some reconsideration perhaps he will regain his
senses.

I think you have made your point, and I think I might also have done something similar. Beyond that, casting aspersions on Mr. Lanphier's sanity or intelligence simply because he states something with which you disagree, legitimately or otherwise, might be appropriate among techie undergraduates -- at least this is the way we talked to each other at Cal Tech -- but I'd think you'd have left that behind quite a while ago.

And if you hope to help lead a movement that brings in broad support, you might consider what, if anything, you might be doing that drives people away. Certainly I need to look at myself similarly.

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