Donald, --- Donald Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit�: > > David and EM list, > > David, you wrote: "Take the simplified example: > > 49 A>B > 3B > 48 C>B > > For B to win in this situation she/he must have a minimum utility of 0.92 to > A>B voters and a minimum utility of 0.96 to C>B voters. To win B has to be > highly liked (approved?) by everybody." > > > Donald here: If B was highly liked, B would receive more first choices, > like twenty or thirty, but in your example B only receives three, which > means B is not highly liked. A more realist example would be:
In David's method, the voters actually indicate how much they like each candidate. (Whether that would work well is a different question.) So if every voter said they were over 90% happy with B, B certainly can be called "highly liked." Without that information it is not possible to say whether B is "highly liked." > > The major party voters care as little for candidate B as they do for the > other major candidate. Note: the three B voters would make second choices, > it's anyone guess as to what those second choices will be. The B voters won't make second choices if they think B will win. > Donald: No No David! Debate or no debate, the voters of A and C are going > to stone wall and hold their position and why not, their most preferred > candidae is close to victory, all he needs is two or three points. No, > instead of electing B, the A and C voters will expect B to withdraw. They > will wait for that to happen and/or for the B voters to change their votes > (regardless if B withdraws). B won't withdraw if he can win. If the C voters stonewall and let A win, when they were 90%+ happy with B, the C voters are idiots. Donald, why don't you ever reply to my responses? Haven't I said anything worth disagreeing with? What do you think of Runoff Without Elimination, or Approval-Elimination Runoff? Will you comment on which criteria are important to you? The "ESBS standard" seems to require that the method be phrasable as a runoff, but I think "later-no-harm" is what you really meant by it. Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran�ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
