Markus, you are not understanding what Mr. Hodges proposes.
1)A closed list is a list where the order of candidates for a party is an order imposed by the party leader. Also called nominations. ... 3)An open list is a list where the order is determined from the popular election results. Between these two case is the case you refer to: 2) A closed/open list (I do not know how you see it) is a list established by an election made by party members before the popular election. I would call it an "open-to-party members" list. Markus refers to case #2), Mr. Hodges and myself to #3). We agree STV is case #3) and it is better than #1) or #2). Now there are other ways than STV to implement case #3) , some using single-winner methods to produce fully proportionnal PR models. Steph Markus Schulze a �crit : > Dear John B. Hodges, > > approval and ranked pairs are not proportional methods. > When these methods were being used to create an ordered > party list then a majority of the voters of this party > could fill all relevant positions. > > I suggest that STV should be used to create an ordered > party list. > > Please read: > > 1) Colin Rosenstiel, "Producing a Party List using STV," > Voting Matters, issue 9, 1998; > 2) Joseph Otten, "Ordered List Selection," Voting Matters, > issue 9, 1998; > 3) C. Hugh E. Warren, "An example of ordering elected > candidates," Voting Matters, issue 10, 1999; > 4) Joseph Otten, "Ordered List Selection - revisted," > Voting Matters, issue 12, 2000. > > Markus Schulze > ---- > Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
